Chase Passion Before Money, Not After
episodePreviously titled “How To ATTRACT Your Dreams With Your Mindset & Live Your Full Potential” — renamed by the publisher on Sep 3, 2026
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What is the main topic of this episode?
Welcome to this special masterclass. We've brought some of the top experts in the world to help you unlock the power of your life through this specific theme today. It's going to be powerful, so let's go ahead and dive in. A lot of people feel stuck with their life and they don't think they have the ability to change. Yeah.
How can we transform our mindset in six months?
And if you were to give someone a roadmap, what would you do to transform someone's life in six months? So they feel like they actually are seeing change.
Yeah. I mean, I think that first off, that's like probably the best question because that's the majority of the mindset mentors, like steps of all of this, just different podcasts from like, okay, when I, when I wrote the book that I, that I just got out last year, I was like, what do I do? Like, If I look at 1,400 episodes of the Mindset Mentor podcast, what is it that I do? And it's more than anything else. It's how to understand yourself so you can take action. The original title of the book was The Psychology of Taking Action because I find that so many people have trouble with it. And I had a lot of trouble with it. And so it's interesting. We can look and say, oh, yeah, we both have successful podcasts. It must be so nice to have a successful podcast.
But it's like... There's a lot of fears that come up in doing this. I'm like, we have to put ourselves out there. That's a lot of judgment they can come from it, right? I think the first thing that's probably the most important is what feels right. I don't know about you, but I didn't start a podcast for money. And when you started a podcast, there wasn't any money. When I started a podcast, there was no money.
Why is following passion more important than chasing money?
Five, six years.
There was no money. I didn't even know there was a way to monetize it, right? So it wasn't a money thing. There was a part of me that was like, what feels like the thing that I want to do? And for me, I actually felt obligated to start the Mindset Mentor because the exact moment that it happened, I can tell you exactly what happened. I was in Jason's Deli with my girlfriend at the time, now wife. And I was sitting there and it was like, it was like a movie where it was like a fever pitch where it was like, I started getting really stressed out, really anxious. I was looking around me and there was all these people that were like yelling at their kids. And they were, you know, just seemed like they were, I don't know if it was reality or if it was just in my head.
And it was like, everyone looked like they were miserable around me. And I was like feeling all of it. And this is like the beginning of 2015. So nine years ago. Right. And I look at Lauren and I go, I think I'm gonna start a podcast. And she's like, what is a podcast? She didn't really know what it was back then. I was like, I had this microphone, this exact one that we're using, a Shure SM7B, because I'm a musician, so I had the setup. And I was like, I have things, I have traumas that I've overcome in my life that self-development helped me with. And I want to try to, I feel obligated to teach that to people. and it just felt right which is the most important thing and so like i think the first step is don't ever chase money i heard a quote i think it was from oprah uh where she said follow your passion money comes second money always comes second and so i think a lot of people always go money first how can i make money right now and i think the the thing about it is if someone follows passion
The money might not be there right away, but I think that if you fast forward five or six years, you go, oh my God, I didn't expect it to be this good. You might have some patience, though. That's the problem, is most people want it right now. They want it now. They're real bad with delayed gratification. And so I think the first thing is the feeling. What feels like the thing that you want to do? And I think a lot of people don't give themselves enough space and silence to be able to think. Like a lot of times we're keeping so busy. We're always on Instagram. Like I recently deleted Instagram completely from my phone.
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
What is the main topic of this episode?
0:00–0:25
2
How can we transform our mindset in six months?
0:25–1:31
3
Why is following passion more important than chasing money?
1:31–4:58
4
How can silence and space lead to self-discovery?
4:58–7:51
5
What steps should we take to change our identity?
7:51–15:21
6
How can we identify and change our patterns?
15:21–38:18
7
What role does collaboration play in success?
38:18–53:26
8
Why do many people still have a competitive mindset?
53:26–1:17:14
Speakers
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You're Not Bad With Money, You Inherited Bad Beliefs | Lewis Howes
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