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The School of Greatness

The Neuroscience of Identity: Why You Keep Repeating the Same Patterns | Emily McDonald

01 Jun 2026

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Chapter 1: How does your nervous system influence your decisions?

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How important is it to make sure your nervous system is in alignment with what you think and believe in order to manifest what you want in life?

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you wouldn't really be able to trust somebody that was always saying one thing and doing another. You'd probably have your head on a swivel around those people. When you're always saying you're gonna do one thing and you're not doing it, your brain is on a swivel with you and that's dysregulating.

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And then when your nervous system is dysregulated, well then that's the energy flowing through you and that's the energy you're putting out.

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She's a neuroscientist and mindset expert who's been featured in the New York Times and has reached millions of people across social media. And today she's gonna break down the neuroscience-backed methods to help you rewire your brain. Emily McDonald in the house.

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Your brain is always filtering your reality to confirm the beliefs you already have. You actually get dopamine too when your brain confirms a belief you hold. Even if it's negative. Even if it's negative.

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So if we are constantly doubting ourselves and having this negative mindset, then our amygdala is going to hijack our perception and we're not even going to be able to notice the opportunities or the things that we want.

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What is the thing then that keeps people falling back into their familiar patterns and way of being rather than fully shifting into the newer, greater identity?

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So I think there are kind of two components to this, which is...

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We were just talking about right beforehand, you mentioned that you really got into manifestation and you started to learn more about it from the School of Greatness. So I'm grateful for this full circle moment that you have gone on and crushed it and went to get, you know, study neuroscience and really have built your own thing. And it's been really cool to watch what you've done.

Chapter 2: What is identity shifting and how can it change your life?

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I think it's only harder if you don't have a super clear vision of the future reality. And this is where I think practicing the art of, I call it identity shifting, but sort of constructing that version of you that has it all, I think is the most important thing. Like everybody has a to-do list, but how many people have a to-be list? Like, do you know who you're being called to become?

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And I always think, you know, in every great movie or book, there's this hero's journey. It's like they don't achieve the goal as a version of them who started. They achieve the goal as a version of them they had to become to achieve it. And that was, I mean, in my own journey, in my own life, like I knew if I had this big dream, I was going to have to become a better version of myself.

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And so knowing that if I want to live in a better life, quote unquote, better reality, different reality, then I'm going to have to become a different version of myself. And I think that can be confusing if you don't know who that version of yourself is. But I like to sit down. I mean, I always take my people that I coach through and even myself through a practice where I visualize

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that version of me who has it all. Like, who is that version of you who has it all? What are their habits? What's their energy like? What's their mindset like? How do they carry themselves? What do they do every day? What are their beliefs, you know? And I think once you get clear on that, it becomes a lot easier to act as that version of you.

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So yeah, I think it's only harder if you don't have that super clear picture.

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What is the thing then that keeps people falling back into their familiar patterns and way of being rather than fully shifting into the newer, greater identity that has the direction of the version they want to be? When you've lived for 20 plus years or 30 years with an old identity,

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Yeah. So I think there are kind of two components to this, which is literally just identifying as someone different, like adopting that label. And a lot of the time that can feel like a lie, right? It can feel... It is a lie until it's not. Right, exactly. And I had someone, a client that I coached, and he struggled with this habit for his entire life. And

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I told him, I was like, he's like, I don't know why I keep falling back to this. And I was like, well, that's it right there. You have this story that you always fall back to this. And so your brain is just confirming the story and the belief that you already have. And so I said, just tell a different story. And he came back two weeks later and he had this whole transformation already.

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And he's like, yeah, I just went up to my friend. I was like, I'm just not that type of person anymore. And he's like, my friend laughed at me, but it's true. And so I think that kind of is one component to it. But then there's the other component, which there are things that our identity anchors. So things like habits, your environment, the people around you, even the foods that you eat.

Chapter 3: Why do affirmations sometimes backfire?

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And also that's very dysregulating to your nervous system. I always say like discipline is nervous system regulation. And that's, that's because, you know, going back to this example of you wouldn't really be able to trust somebody that was always saying one thing and doing another. In fact, you'd probably have your head on a swivel around those people.

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Like you're not constantly checking your bag constantly. Yeah.

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And so when you're always saying you're going to do one thing and you're not doing it, your brain is on a swivel with you. And that's dysregulating. That's, you know, you feel unsafe in your own body because you can't trust yourself.

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Wow.

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And then when your nervous system is dysregulated, well, then that's the energy flowing through you and that's the energy you're putting out. And other people can feel the state of your nervous system. The environment can feel that. Everything around you can feel that. That's the energy you put out. And then, you know, you're not manifesting the life that you want from that state.

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You're not. Well, you're draining your energy and you're exhausting yourself. Your nervous system is weakening. Your health is weakening. You're not vibrating and emitting the energy at the highest level that you could. And I think it's important to... And listen, we're all going to make mistakes and we're never going to be a perfect 100% in integrity with our word 100% of the time.

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Like we're going to... make mistakes, but it's, if you can, the more consistent you can be, the more empowered you will be as well. Something you talked about a number of times is identity so far. What is an identity mismatch and how does someone know that's the real reason their goals, their relationship or success keeps falling apart no matter what they try?

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I think the way you can maybe discover if you have one is by asking that question of whatever it is that you want, whether it be the relationship, the job, who is the version of me that has that? And getting really clear on that and then asking yourself, okay, am I in alignment with that or am I out of alignment with that?

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And I think it's fair to notice though that there is always going to be a gap. But I think that that gap is beautiful because that's, you know, the work is never done. But that means that there's always more to become and there's always more to grow into. And I think that's beautiful.

Chapter 4: How does the law of attraction relate to neuroscience?

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Because when I was in college, I would go through kind of week spans where I'd just be having so much fun. Like I would be having so much fun with my friends and, you know, going out, whatever, hanging out with them. And then, you know, exam season would come around. I'd have like... week or two straight of multiple exams.

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I'm like, Oh, it's responsible girl, Emily time, like responsible girl, Emily. And literally like that was what I would do. I would. And all of a sudden now responsible girl, Emily, she says no to plans. She's staying in, she's studying all night. And that's, it really worked for me. That's what I would do.

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You shift into that different identity.

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Yeah.

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Yeah. And then you'd step into it and you'd create boundaries to not go out and not party or not be distracted. You'd shift into that identity. It's interesting. I've heard you say this before. You've said that we don't attract what we want. We attract what our brain is wired for. So before someone can manifest the change they want in their life, what has to change first at the identity level?

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At the identity level, I think, I mean, everything that the category we've kind of mentioned thus far, the labels, the habits, beliefs, thoughts, energy. So I think all of that. But I think a huge component to why I say that is in that we don't attract, we won't, we attract what our brain is wired for is deeper than just identity. I think it's also our programming because

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As we grow up, when we are first born, our brain is a sponge. We're born with the most connections we will ever have in our brain. And then as we learn and grow, our brain actually starts to prune away these connections. And the pathways that are left is our programming or our conditioning.

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And I love this study that they did with the kittens where they took these newborn kittens and they raised them in complete darkness. except for only a couple of hours a day where they would put one group or they would put them individually into cylinders painted with either only horizontal black and white stripes or only vertical black and white stripes.

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And then after the kind of critical period of development, they put these kittens into a normal environment and they, for example, The kittens that were only ever raised to see the horizontal black and white stripes, they would have a vertical bar and they'd wave it in front of these kittens. They wouldn't react to it. And so I find that this is so true for us and our lives and so many people.

Chapter 5: What role does ADHD medication play in decision-making?

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And so that was really the mindset that I had. And so there were a lot of beliefs that I had to rewire. Yeah. I mean, around scarcity as well and like living in abundance and like making money. I... I had so many limiting beliefs around money and I had to kind of wire in like, oh no, like there are an infinite number of ways that money can come and really wire.

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I mean, so every different area, honestly, I talked to you about the relationship that I'm in before this. And I mean, that was a big thing that I had to rewire as well. And so I was a kitten in a lot of different areas of my life. And when I identified, okay, these are the things that I'm wanting. I'm like, okay, well, what are my limiting beliefs that I have around that?

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And then I kind of have a little bit of a process for kind of overcoming limiting beliefs. And one of those is by looking for evidence of the opposite. And a lot of times we think that our beliefs are objectively true. And I always say, no, go look for the evidence of the opposite. There are plenty of people that opportunities just come to them. Money just comes to them. They are abundant.

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It's not that hard for them. And I think looking for evidence of the opposite and recognizing like, OK, that might be true based on my past experience, but it's not objectively true. And it just opens you up a little bit to be like, okay, maybe I could shift a little bit here and just being open to it, I think is the most important thing.

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And then, you know, starting small with just little tweaks and I remember I would start very small, like, oh, I'm going to see a feather today. Just little things to kind of build that belief muscle of, oh, wow, I saw that feather. Okay, maybe this works. And then, oh, you know, money can come to me in expected and unexpected ways.

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And then I'm walking my dog and there's a $20 bill on the railroad tracks outside of my apartment. I'm like... Whoa, that's crazy because I just wrote that down. So just little things like that were kind of the beginning steps for me to kind of show me, OK, maybe maybe this does work. And then that allowed me to grow into bigger things.

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Would you say then you lived more of a victim or scarcity mindset most of your life?

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Absolutely.

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Really?

Chapter 6: How can mindfulness practices help with identity shifts?

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And I actually went up to someone I knew in the pre-health organization that I was in I told them my situation and they were like, well, why don't you try neuroscience? And it sounded cool to me. Literally, it just sounded cool. So I switched my major to it, took the first class, got a 100 on the first exam.

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And my professor reached out to me and was like, congratulations, you couldn't have done better. And I responded back and I said, I love this. Get me in the lab. And so I started doing research super early on, working in the lab, studying learning and memory and the perception of time and scanning brains, doing fMRI. And

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Learning about the brain and neuroplasticity just kind of gave me hope for change that I didn't know was even an option. You know, in my experience, it was this is what's wrong with you. This is your diagnosis. You're sucks to suck that you're just going to have to deal with this for the rest of your life. Yeah. And I had no one had ever told me your brain is changeable.

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You can change the wiring and, you know. I still have ADHD for sure, but I don't struggle with all of the things that I used to struggle with. And now I'm able to, you know, direct my focus and sustain that. And I understand how my brain and nervous system works so that I can actually use that knowledge to my advantage.

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And so, yeah, I think just learning about the brain, it made me so passionate, but that's, you know, when you say I could never tell by your content, I think that's why I am so passionate about sharing all of this on social media and just

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to everyone that will listen because it at least back in the day was not popular knowledge that hey yes this might be something you're struggling with but you do have the power to change and no one had ever told me that and if someone would have told me that earlier maybe i wouldn't have struggled for so long um but everything that i talk about that everything that i talk about online here on social media is is everything that i've personally done to change my life

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so you're sharing before that like your belief systems have changed also around your perception of faith god you said you grew up in the church then you became an atheist and now you're spiritual yeah so how are these beliefs around god changed and evolved and which belief system supports you in becoming the best version of yourself

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The belief system that supports me in becoming the best version of myself, I think, is a combination of belief in myself and belief in my capabilities and the power of my mind, which I've built over time through practice and those small reps of just showing myself, hey, you can do this and writing things down and then going and doing it and proving myself right.

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And I think also my spirituality has been huge. I don't know if I would have been able to manifest the life that I want without this belief that there is this higher power or energy that exists, that connects all things, that flows through me, that I can channel. that I can call upon. For me, that developed probably late undergrad.

Chapter 7: What is the neuroscience behind addiction and its root causes?

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I mean, I've always been a little crazy. So that was, that was the dream. And then after that, realizing that, okay, I need to go on this journey and do the work on myself to be able to get into that position, because obviously that's a huge dream. And if I'm going to make that happen, I'm going to need to be the better version of myself.

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And so I started, you know, I would say I started meditating and doing those things more with the mindset of training my brain for focus and developing this mindfulness practice so that I can become aware and just be the best version of myself. And then kind of on that journey opened this other door that I maybe didn't realize was there. And I also met people.

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So I met these two people that I became really close friends with when I was an undergrad and they were huge in my journey of introducing me to spirituality and I remember them one of them telling me to read the untethered soul.

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And I read that book and it very much resonated with what I was learning in my neuroscience classes of, Oh, Hey, like, yeah, it's like when you're going to a movie and you plug in and you're watching it, it's like, that's exactly how your brain constructs reality. That's how your visual system works. Actually. Like you don't even see.

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There's a movie in your brain and you're like,

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Well, you don't even see the world with your eyes at all, right? Your eyes just take in light signals and then those light signals travel through your brain where your thoughts, emotions, beliefs, memories, programming are all incorporated before the image is even constructed that you see.

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We can see the same image but have a different perspective of what we're seeing.

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Yeah. And I remember learning even in one of my neuroscience classes about how they've actually found differences in brain activity along this pathway in people that have body dysmorphia, for example. So their brain is literally constructing the image differently.

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And so it's not just like all in their head and they just need to, you know, it's like their brain is actually constructing the image that they see differently. And so when I, it kind of all connected and I was like, okay, yeah, this is a different world. And then these people that I was meeting and that were very spiritual and

Chapter 8: How can belief systems shape our reality and success?

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Money can come to me and expect the unexpected ways. So You know, that was a goal that I had. So I started to kind of rewrite my beliefs around that.

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How much of our current struggle in life is actually a physical truth or fact versus how much of it is just poorly wired perception in our brains?

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I don't know if I could put a number on it, but they've actually shown in studies, I can't remember the exact number of seconds, but it's seconds that when we have an emotional response to something, whether positive or negative, that kind of chemical representation of that emotion only exists in our brain for seconds, like less than a minute, or maybe it's 90 seconds or something like that.

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And anything after that is us reinforcing that feeling with our thoughts. It's really quite interesting when you think about it that way. And again, we all get caught up in the emotions for longer. But I think, you know, I remember I heard the saying that life is 10% what happens to you, 90% what you do about it. And after learning that, I was like, okay, yeah, like things are going to happen.

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Things happen to everyone, everyone, even the super successful people that we see and like the people that we assumed, oh, they just had it easy. Like life is hard for everyone. Like life is not easy for anyone. But I think what makes it

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quote unquote, easier is having that mindset and that belief in yourself and also that faith in whatever you believe in, belief in yourself and belief in the divine, the creator. Because when you have that belief, I mean, that lower stress and cortisol, right? And you have that self-trust that, okay, like, I can overcome this.

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So even when things do suck and the things do happen, it's like it's OK. And I remember when I was studying the difference between optimistic and pessimistic mindsets, it's like bad things, like, quote unquote, bad things happen to everyone. But an optimist doesn't make that like doesn't take a bad situation and apply it to their whole life and mean apply it to their whole world.

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Whereas a pessimist might trip over a wire and be like, oh, I'm so clumsy. This always happens to me. Different little things like that, you take one situation and you apply it to everything. Whereas an optimist might just be like, okay, that happened, but that doesn't mean that it's going to happen again.

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And from your experience of studying neuroscience, can you explain then the law of attraction neurologically?

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