The Ultimate Human with Gary Brecka
171. Courtney Swan: Why Your ‘Healthy’ Food Is Actually Harmful
Tue, 03 Jun 2025
60% of what you think is "food" is actually a carefully engineered chemical experiment designed for profit, not health. Courtney Swan and I expose how Americans unknowingly consume ultra-processed substances that bear no resemblance to real food - a systematic poisoning at the cellular level. What's the real cost when your cellular machinery pays the price for convenience? Join my FREE 3-Day Ultimate Detox Challenge starting June 23rd. Sign up here: https://bit.ly/3ZgCW4u Join the Ultimate Human VIP community today!: https://bit.ly/4ai0Xwg Listen to "Realfoodology" on all your favorite platforms! YouTube: https://bit.ly/4dGSCnw Spotify: https://bit.ly/45C0yo8 Apple Podcasts: https://bit.ly/3Sy0G0f Connect with Courtney Swan: Website: https://bit.ly/4kqMhzn Instagram: https://bit.ly/4kR4sy3 TikTok: https://bit.ly/3FD3cQ0 Facebook: https://bit.ly/4518GOQ X.com: https://bit.ly/4kL1LOh LinkedIn: https://bit.ly/3HlfVas Download the Trash Panda Food Scanner app here: https://bit.ly/4kJXWc7 Thank you to our partners: H2TABS - USE CODE “ULTIMATE10” FOR 10% OFF: https://bit.ly/4hMNdgg BODYHEALTH - USE CODE “ULTIMATE20” FOR 20% OFF: http://bit.ly/4e5IjsV BAJA GOLD - USE CODE "ULTIMATE10" FOR 10% OFF: https://bit.ly/3WSBqUa EIGHT SLEEP - SAVE $350 ON THE POD 4 ULTRA WITH CODE “GARY”: https://bit.ly/3WkLd6E COLD LIFE - THE ULTIMATE HUMAN PLUNGE: https://bit.ly/4eULUKp WHOOP - GET 1 FREE MONTH WHEN YOU JOIN!: https://bit.ly/3VQ0nzW MASA CHIPS - GET 20% OFF YOUR FIRST ORDER: https://bit.ly/40LVY4y VANDY - USE CODE “ULTIMATE20” FOR 20% OFF: https://bit.ly/49Qr7WE AION - USE CODE “ULTIMATE10” FOR 10% OFF: https://bit.ly/4h6KHAD HAPBEE - FEEL BETTER & PERFORM AT YOUR BEST: https://bit.ly/4a6glfo CARAWAY - USE CODE “ULTIMATE” FOR 10% OFF: https://bit.ly/3Q1VmkC HEALF - GET 10% OFF YOUR ORDER: https://bit.ly/41HJg6S BIOPTIMIZERS - USE CODE “ULTIMATE” FOR 10% OFF: https://bit.ly/4inFfd7 RHO NUTRITION - USE CODE “ULTIMATE15” FOR 15% OFF: https://bit.ly/44fFza0 GENETIC TEST: https://bit.ly/3Yg1Uk9 Connect with Gary Brecka: Instagram: https://bit.ly/3RPpnFs TikTok: https://bit.ly/4coJ8fo YouTube: https://bit.ly/3RPQYX8 X.com: https://bit.ly/3Opc8tf Facebook: https://bit.ly/464VA1H LinkedIn: https://bit.ly/4hH7Ri2 Website: https://bit.ly/4eLDbdU Merch: https://bit.ly/4aBpOM1 Newsletter: https://bit.ly/47ejrws Ask Gary: https://bit.ly/3PEAJuG Timestamps: 00:00 Intro 03:10 Courtney Swan’s Journey and Passion on Food 09:59 Biggest Myth in Nutrition and Wellness 13:10 The Shift in Eating Real Foods to Ultra-Processed Foods 15:13 Chemicals in Our Food Supply 22:06 Majority of Food on the Shelves Are Created with Profits in Mind, Not Our Health 25:10 Risks of Glyphosate in Our Foods 26:29 Feeding Garbage to the Livestock Animals 30:20 Courtney Swan’s Mission 34:58 Organic Eating Should No Longer Be Negotiable 39:05 The Sustainability of Agriculture 42:22 The Possible Outcomes of Regenerative and Sustainable Farming is Subsidized 45:03 The Impact of the Chemical Industry on Our Health 50:07 Actionable Steps People Can Start Doing to Improve Their Health 58:12 Profit-Driven Food Companies 1:04:23 Simple Hacks You Can Start Doing Tomorrow 1:09:50 Final Question: What does it mean to you to be an “Ultimate Human?” The Ultimate Human with Gary Brecka Podcast is for general informational purposes only and does not constitute the practice of medicine, nursing or other professional health care services, including the giving of medical advice, and no doctor/patient relationship is formed. The use of information on this podcast or materials linked from this podcast is at the user’s own risk. The Content of this podcast is not intended to be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Users should not disregard or delay in obtaining medical advice for any medical condition they may have and should seek the assistance of their health care professionals for any such conditions. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Chapter 1: What is the main topic of this episode?
I was looking for answers, right? But I was looking in all the wrong places. I was eating slim fast bars for breakfast and thinking that I was going to lose weight and like get healthy, which is so ironic.
You know, in the States, a lot of our food is just not even food.
This is what many people need to understand is that the majority of the food on our shelves was not created with health in mind. It was created with profits in mind.
Chapter 2: What sparked Courtney Swan's passion for nutrition?
I don't think that we got here overnight. And I think we just ignored the problem until we are at the point where the cost of health care could break the entire system.
What's going to stand the test of time when it comes to nutrition and health? We always need to be coming back to eating real food.
The sinister things that have gone on for decades and the reason why the majority of people are just walking around probably 60% of their true state of normal and just believing that this is a consequence of aging.
just because it's happening to a lot of people and it's becoming normalized does not mean that it's okay. That does not have to be your experience.
So where does this go in a perfect world? Where does your mission, can you have the greatest effect?
That's a great question. If I could just change one thing that has been the basis of my entire business and my message is that we need to be
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Chapter 3: What is the biggest myth in nutrition?
Hey guys, welcome back to the Ultimate Human Podcast, where we go down the road of everything anti-aging, biohacking, longevity, and everything in between. I'm your host, human biologist, Gary Brekka, and today's guest, Courtney Swan, you are going to love her. We did podcasts before we actually got on the podcast. We did a podcast while we ate lunch between the podcast.
But I'm so excited to bring this woman on because as young and beautiful as she is, she is an OG in this space because she's been in this space more than 10 years, really fighting for awareness and drawing people's attention to nutrition, our food supply, the corruption in our food supply. She's a major advocate for public policy.
She is an advocate of the Maha movement, as am I. And so you're really going to enjoy this podcast. Stay tuned to the end. I've got a lot of things for you guys, but welcome to the podcast, Courtney Swan.
Thank you so much for having me. I'm so excited to have you. This is so much fun. We were talking earlier on my podcast about how we just felt like little kids were just like so excited. Yeah.
Chapter 4: Why is understanding ultra-processed foods important?
I'm just so excited to be in this industry and so excited to the caliber of people that we get to associate with and the sincerity of the commitment of most of the people in our industry, our peer group. It's just, everybody wants to see the tide raise all of our boats and we're all on the same mission to just better humanity. And I find that
There's a lack of arrogance and a sincere fabric of authenticity in this community. And everyone wants to see everyone else thrive. And it's just very unique, I think, to a lot of different industries out there. So we are both very, very blessed to be a part of this. And you've had kind of an interesting journey, which I find fascinating.
And I really think that your influence is now beginning to be recognized to the point where you're able to have a bigger voice and potentially make a bigger impact. So talk a little bit about your journey to becoming this advocate for food. Real Foodology is her podcast. If you haven't seen it, you've got to check out Real Foodology. I was just on it. So at a minimum, watch my episode.
But talk a little bit about the genesis of this. How did it become your purpose, your passion? Like what ignited it for you?
Yeah, it was a journey for me to get there for sure. We had talked about this earlier off camera, but I started out working in music actually. My mom had really planted the seeds for me when I was a kid because she was buying organic and natural food before it was even a movement or a thing. And when I was a kid, like most kids, you don't realize how good you have it, right?
I was watching all my friends eating Dunkaroos and getting Burger King every night for dinner, and I was upset. And then I was going home to my amazing, organic, home-cooked meals that my mom would be in the kitchen almost for two hours every night making everything from scratch.
Which you despised her for at the time. Oh, I despised her at the time. You're like, what about Lucky Charms, Mom?
Yeah, I was like, I want the McDonald's. Like, I want a happy meal. And now, I mean, obviously, I am so beyond grateful. I went to college. I started eating fast food. And I don't even recognize who that person is anymore. But, you know, I was eating in the dining hall, which is, you know, Cisco and Shamrock Foods catering. And I gained a bunch of weight. I got acne I never had before.
I was fatigued. And it wasn't until I took a nutrition course. And also, my mom had sent me a book on nutrition. It was literally just called You Are What You Eat.
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Chapter 5: What are the risks of glyphosate in our food?
Right.
And it's so funny looking back to that now thinking how much of a light bulb moment that was for me. But it really lit a fire under my ass because I quite to be quite frank, I was pretty mad that I had not learned that sooner because I was probably 20 at that point. And you were in college. And I was thinking, why aren't we teaching small children this? Why doesn't every human know this?
And I was also thinking, too, looking at all my parents' friends and older generations, and a lot of them still hadn't figured it out. And I was so flabbergasted, for lack of a better word, because I was like, this is so simple, right? It's so simple. The things that we're eating and we're putting in our bodies are either fighting disease or fueling it, you know?
Yes.
And so that really ignited a passion in me. And then I just could not get enough information. I found Michael Pollan back then when he was writing about food. I found Dr. Mark Hyman. I think I read one of his very first books. Love him. And he introduced me to this world of functional and integrative medicine, which is root cause, disease protocol.
Um, where you're looking at the root cause and you're looking for the root cause and trying to mitigate symptoms with diet and lifestyle changes. So that really affected me a lot. I was in school or sorry, I was actually touring at the time. Um, I finally decided on the music industry. Exactly. So I was with the music industry.
Um, I decided to quit that and I went back and I got my master's of science in nutrition and integrative health. Wow. And then actually during that time, I got pulled back on the road and I ended up being a nutritionist for four years for a pop star. Really? Yeah, which was pretty amazing.
So cool.
And it was very cool because it was, you know, I got to kind of blend both of my favorite worlds, which was nutrition and then being on tour and getting to work for musicians, which was so much fun. But I did hit a point where, um, you know, we kind of talked about this on my podcast that it was really starting to, to really like tax my body.
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Chapter 6: How can we improve our food supply and health?
Chapter 7: What actionable steps can people take for better health?
I got this spare tire that I never really had, but all my friends do. And I'm on three meds, but all of my buddies are on three meds and my wife's on three or four meds. And I think that normalization almost makes it feel like, It's just a part of, quote unquote, what happens.
60%.
That's more than half of our diet.
What does it mean to be ultra-processed? I think a lot of people don't understand what that means. I mean, does that mean that we just take a cow and slaughter it and chop it into steaks and package it and send it? No.
So that would be processing. Yeah. So there's a lot of discrepancy between like processing versus ultra-processed because I see some of these like RDs or dissenting voices out there that are saying, oh, well – Apple sauce is processed. Bread is processed. So that is absolutely true.
But there is a huge difference between eating applesauce that maybe is just made with apple and maybe that a little bit of sugar and some water versus if you were going to go to McDonald's and get an apple pie. So the difference between ultra processed and just something simply processing that we've been doing since the dawn of time is.
With ultra processed foods, you're adding a ton of additives and preservatives and fillers in there. And that food no longer resembles what that natural state of food once was. I often tell people if your grandparents were to time travel or maybe like your great grandparents, like someone who's no longer alive.
If they were to time travel and you just drop them into 2025 and you took them to the grocery store and you showed them all these food products that we're eating.
Oh, my God.
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Chapter 8: What does being an 'Ultimate Human' mean?
There are a bunch of ingredients that you find in factories. And my argument and the whole reason that I started Real Foodology, my whole thing was when I came up with that name 14 years ago is I sat down and I thought, what's gonna stand the test of time when it comes to nutrition and health? We always need to be coming back to eating real food.
That's so true.
And that has been the basis of my entire business and my message is that we need to be getting back to eating real food. And right now, the majority of our calories are coming from these ultra-processed foods.
You know what's amazing is I still remember going into my grandmother's basement, Grandma Rose, who I named my daughter after. So my grandmother, Rose Braca, she, in her basement, which was always like a little cool, were all these like canned vegetables everywhere.
And she would, every year, you know, she would can vegetables and she would make like sauerkrauts and kimchis and pickles and all of this stuff. I always thought it was like a little weird. But- I really identify with it now. And I remember you used to press the lid and if the lid was still tight, she was like, yeah, bring it upstairs. If the lid pops, throw it in the trash.
And I still remember it. So I'm like, this is so weird. Because I was here last Christmas and that pickle was right there. So something tells me I shouldn't bring this up and eat it. But it made so much sense. They didn't have preservatives and they didn't have the thickening agents and a lot of these artificial ingredients.
And so they preserved them naturally through the fermentation process, which actually made them more healthy. And, you know, like fermented vegetables, one of the healthiest things you can put in your body. I try to eat a lot of kimchi and sauerkraut and get the soluble and insoluble fibers. But, you know, I think we've modernized things. And I don't think that we got here overnight.
I think we got here really slowly. And I think we just ignored the problem until we are at... call it pandemic levels, crisis levels, whatever you wanna call it. I mean, we are at the point where I think from a financial perspective that the cost of healthcare could break the entire system.
I don't think people understand how detrimental it is actually.
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