Everybody wants to rule the AI world
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What are the key moments from the Musk v. OpenAI trial?
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How did Sam Altman's firing unfold?
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Welcome to The Verge Cast, the flagship podcast of rando Twitch guys who sometimes become CEOs for five minutes. I'm your friend, David Pearce. Neil Apatow is here. Hey, buddy. What's up? We're doing AI chaos again. This is what we do here on The Verge Cast. We talk about how people don't like AI, and then we talk about AI.
What are the implications of OpenAI's rumored phone?
This is what we're here for.
If you look at our audience stats, like the website stats, which we don't talk about a lot, everybody just wants to read about AI guys being extremely dramatic.
And boy, do we have a lot. There's a cornucopia of AI guys being dramatic in the world right now.
Alex, he had a good tweet. He's covering the trial and he goes, the entire AI industry is basically just how seven guys feel about each other.
It's not wrong. Uh, and by extension, like the entire United States economy, it's just how seven guys feel about each other. Um, we got a lot to talk about. There's a, there's a new, uh, Fitbit product that I think you and I both have a bunch of thoughts and questions about. Uh, open AI is maybe making a chat GPT phone. We got a bunch of stuff to talk about, but we got to start with the trial, right? Elon Musk versus open AI continues. This is week two of the trial. Uh, I sort of expected it to be less bananas in week two after Elon Musk left the stand. I was wrong.
Very wrong. It is only increased in amount of bananas, a bushel, if you will. A bushel of bananas. Can I just say this like one thing that's been on my mind throughout this entire trial? And maybe it's because, you know, I have like ex-lawyer in me and married to a lawyer and we think about the lawyer stuff. To make AI good, You have to tell it everything. Right. Right. Like it needs access to all of your email. You got to write down everything you want. You got to write these long system problems, all this stuff, all the context that it needs. We're now watching the fruits of that in discovery in a lawsuit. Oh, that's such a good theory. Do you know what I mean? Like Greg Brockman, why did you keep a journal?
And his journal is extraordinarily damning. He's like, I shouldn't steal this charity. What are you doing, man? I'm not saying that drove this set of characters to keep the notes and send the texts that they sent. I'm very grateful that they did because some of them are frankly hilarious. And honestly, a huge part of this Verge cast is just going to be me and David reading other people's texts to each other. And it's going to be amazing.
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
What is discussed at the start of this section?
0:00–0:54
2
What are the key moments from the Musk v. OpenAI trial?
0:54–1:56
3
How did Sam Altman's firing unfold?
1:56–2:26
4
What are the implications of OpenAI's rumored phone?
2:26–51:44
5
What are the implications of Apple's AI health rebranding?
51:44–52:09
6
How does the new Fitbit Air integrate AI technology?
52:09–52:26
7
What is the concept behind the new Familiar robot companion?
52:26–53:08
8
How is the Xbox platform evolving under new leadership?
53:08–1:39:26