Netflix is turning into YouTube
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Hello, and welcome to The Verge Cast, the flagship podcast of the Vox Media Podcast Network. If you just ignore all the other corporate shenanigans, that remains true. Yep. And here we are. I'm your friend, David Pearce. Neil Ipsel is here. Hey, buddy. What's up? You're home, for once. After a month of extremely fancy hotel rooms, you're back in, you know, your lowly old house.
Yeah, I'm back in my attic next to my daughter's room. At any moment, you can hear her singing Taylor Swift. That's what our summer has been.
What does she think about the MSG wedding?
Uh, she, she's more excited about her iPod. So I showed her pictures of the wedding and she's like, great, good for Taylor. Um, but she, you know, she's going to camp like eight year olds do in the summer. And she wanted to listen to music on the bus on the way to camp. And some of her, uh, friends on the bus have like little Android music players. There's like kid music players. Some people have phones without SIM cards in them. It's that time in the parenting journey for me. It will come for you, David. Yeah. And I was like, I'm not doing any of this. We are delaying phone and phone-like objects as long as we can. And so I dug out one of my old iPods that we actually retrofitted for a YouTube video ages ago with an SSD and a new battery.
I've been debating doing this for my own purposes.
Yeah. So, I mean, we had it because we just did this for a video ages ago. And I had to remember how to download MP3s. I'm not going to say how or why I did that. But it was completely legal. That's all you need to know. I was like, I pay for every streaming service. You know? Yeah. I pay for every streaming service. I would like it on the record, Your Honor. I pay for every streaming service. I have done my economic duty to the artists of America, and I do it every month at high rates, ever-increasing rates. Anyhow, so we gave her an iPod, and we put a bunch of music on it. It is the worst selection, outside of Taylor Swift, who I will concede is America's finest living songwriter. Mm-hmm. Shout out Walt Mossberg, who believes this with every fiber of his being.
One of Walt's better takes. It is.
I agree. I think she's right up there. It's a bunch of Disney's direct-to-streaming musical soundtracks, and I could not be unhappier about this. And so we plugged in the headphones, and now it's over there. But you might hear it coming through the wall at any moment. This is very different from being in the south of France.
Is she old enough to have a conversation with me about which of the high school musicals is the best high school musical? Oh, we haven't gotten there yet.
We are at Zombies and Descendants and my friend, the ill-fated crossover musical experience.
Okay, this is big yikes. This is, I'm in the sweet spot of, we are at Spidey and his amazing friends and we are appearing to be stuck there for some time.
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Chapters
4 chapters
1
What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
0:00–12:58
2
Is Netflix becoming more like YouTube and why does that matter?
12:58–19:15
3
Why are Netflix viewers abandoning shows after season one?
19:15–43:16
4
Could Netflix beat competitors by buying creators or Xbox — is that realistic?
43:16–1:28:54