This week our magnificent co-host Jason has a genuinely instructive interview with person in long term recovery, Jesse Plumley. Jesse’s story of overcoming his battle with drugs and alcohol reinforces truly universal truths about alcoholism, addiction and what it takes to achieve durable recovery. We must, as Jesse did, admit to and face the fact we have a problem and then, and this is so critical, we must reach out and seek help from those who have overcome similar problems. We must, as Jesse did, be willing to do whatever it takes to get better and recover and be willing to help others just as we were when we needed it most. We must, as Jesse did, make fundamental lifestyle changes and surround ourselves with others who’ve done and are doing the same. Jesse’s recovery is not rooted in any one particular program, yet his journey and lifestyle changes mirror many of the fundamental principles of any well-known recovery program! No doubt about it, there’s lots of great recovery insights in this episode so listen up. Contact Jesse at [email protected] Best Piece of Advice: Take it one day, or one moment at a time! Book Recommendation: Anything by Brene Brown Song that symbolizes recovery to Jesse: The Package by Perfect Circle Recommended recovery resources: Unlocking Us Podcast AND having a support network Copyright: (c) 2015-2021 The Way Out Podcast | All Rights Reserved Theme Music: “all clear” (https://ketsa.uk/browse-music/) by Ketsa (https://ketsa.uk) licensed under CC BY-NC-ND 4.0(https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/4.0/).

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