The ICE Age of Surveillance and Enforcement
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What sparked the conversation about surveillance and enforcement?
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Hey, everybody. Welcome to the weekly show with Jon Stewart. My name is Jon Stewart. It is Tuesday, January 27th. And the polar vortex continues to lock in the shitty feeling that everybody has in America in this present moment. Where although actually the way that the people have stood up, the resilience that everybody has shown in Minneapolis, the resilience that those who have said this is not an acceptable manner by which the government can do anything to the people and the pushback against the idea that those that are protesting against it are somehow against getting murderers off the street. The government is trying to force down people's throats have been exploded in the very specific disproving of their narrative by video and.
That video is video that's taken by courageous people that have decided to protect their fellow citizens. And you can't be more proud of something than that. But how do we get an understanding of what are the mechanisms of how this is all occurring? That's the thing that I think we're going to talk about. It's sort of this nexus between state power and now kind of these overarching technological advances that are being weaponized and fed into state power and how that's being used to hypercharge this entire economy. deportation pursuit. I think we have got two people that are going to discuss some of the real specifics of this through the companies that are being granted these hundreds of millions of dollar contracts by the government and the police departments that are facing a real uphill battle as
You know, they're seeing these militarized forces and don't want to be mistaken for that because those are, you know, the police forces live in those communities. They're the ones that are actually there trying to do the right thing by their citizens. And these other more alien forces are coming in and, you know, creating the chaos. And we're going to do that with two real experts in this field, Radley Balco and Joseph Cox. So we are joined today by two individuals who really have this beat covered in such a terrific way. Joseph Cox, co-founder of 404 Media and the host of the 404 Media podcast, which is really influential in terms of looking at kind of the tech world and how that intersects with what's been happening.
And Radley Balco, investigative journalist, author of the book, Rise of the Warrior Cop, Militarization of America's Police Forces. the publisher of the Substack newsletter, The Watch, and Radley. First of all, Radley and Joseph, thank you for being here.
Yeah, absolutely. Thanks for having me.
Radley, I've been reading your stuff for decades now, and your work on kind of, and consistent work on civil liberties, how are you experiencing that? this moment that you seem to have foreseen many, many years ago about this, this militarization of, of police forces and now this border patrol force that, you know, masked and, and up armored.
Yeah. I mean, the interesting thing is, um, I'm getting a lot of credit for having predicted this, and I don't actually think I did. It's actually – when I've debated people from law enforcement about police militarization over the years, the debate is always – there's always been some common ground, which is that – police exist to serve the public and keep the peace and that it's bad for the military to be doing domestic policing, that that's not something free societies do. We disagreed about methods and tactics and accountability and where that trade-off between civil liberties and public safety is. But there was always that kind of common understanding. And where we are now is you have an administration and its defenders who are just openly stating that these federal law enforcement forces, which are basically paramilitaries, exist not for public safety but to carry out the will of a single person, of the president.
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Chapters
6 chapters
1
What sparked the conversation about surveillance and enforcement?
0:00–12:43
2
How is technology being weaponized by ICE?
12:43–31:11
3
What role do private companies play in surveillance practices?
31:11–50:03
4
How does the militarization of police affect civil liberties?
50:03–1:08:12
5
What are the implications of ICE's surveillance tactics on communities?
1:08:12–1:24:48
6
How do public perceptions of law enforcement change over time?
1:24:48–1:30:38