The Why Files: Operation Podcast
629: UFO Contact, Government Secrets and the CIA | Basement #004 Chris Bledsoe
19 Feb 2026
Chapter 1: What is Chris Bledsoe's life-changing experience at Cape Fear River?
Today, I'm talking with Chris Bledsoe, a North Carolina businessman who, in 2007, was facing the end of everything. His company had collapsed, he was dying from Crohn's disease, and he went down to the Cape Fear River with his teenage son and three of his workers to fish. What happened next changed his life. And honestly, it's one of the most unusual cases in modern UFO history.
Chris and all five witnesses experienced multiple orbs, creatures with glowing red eyes, and a massive tic-tac-shaped craft, and four hours of missing time. Chris came home healed from his Crohn's disease,
Four hours of missing time and he came back healed. Meanwhile, I lose four hours on TikTok and come back with carpal fin.
And here's where it gets interesting. Since 2007, senior officials from the CIA and NASA and even the Vatican have been quietly investigating him. Former CIA officer Jim Sembevin wrote the foreword to his book. A NASA engineer spent years trying to debunk him and couldn't.
Oh, NASA tried to debunk him, huh? That's their tale, human. When NASA tries to debunk you, you're over the target.
I agree. We're going to talk about the encounter, the healing, the beings, and the entity Chris calls the Lady, a divine feminine presence that's been appearing to him since 2012.
Yeah, at least she's bringing him healing. Whenever a feminine shows up at my door, she's usually bringing legal documents.
Okay, let's get back to work. This one goes places you don't expect. I really enjoy the conversation.
Let's go down to the basement. So if you know my show, and I'm just going to recap this for the audience, at the end of the Y-Files, I do a segment, Debunking and Analysis. I don't do that here. This is about telling the story and just kind of exploring your experiences. So if you feel any pushback, it's not, this isn't a gotcha show. We're going to talk about your story.
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Chapter 2: How did Chris Bledsoe's encounter affect his health?
Yeah. What brought you to the river? Well, it actually started before the river. Okay. And let's back up to about 2001 when the World Trade Center disaster happened. At that time, I had been in business nearly 20 years and building upwards of 100, 120, or 30 houses every year. I was one of the biggest builders in our county and one in the state. private company.
And when when that disaster happened, being that my business is based in a military town, Fort Bragg, the housing sales just stopped suddenly, nobody's buying. And so here I am with $18 million invested in property, and the interest rates had gone up to like 8%. And on borrowed money, it was it was costing me $100,000 a month. We fast forward and I was dealing with Crohn's and that made it worse.
It got worse and worse and worse.
Chapter 3: What investigations followed Chris Bledsoe's claims?
And by the time 2004 come along, I was in the hospital having, and I write about this in my book, what happened there. Had a near death experience from a doctor poisoning me. I'd lost everything. It took me five years to go through all the savings I had and liquidating all I could, but I paid the banks off and sold the property, but I was left with nothing.
So the near death happened in 2004, and early 2005, I was still recovering. By summer of 2006, I was just getting to where I could go back to work. I was still sick with Crohn's, right? And I just had this poisoning in the hospital by a doctor. And I'd love to get into that at some point, maybe later today, because you've had two NDEs.
Yeah, one from a gunshot when I was 10, and one from over-medication, not checking my vital, my liver and my blood work right. The doctor just didn't, he failed to do it, and it caused me to go into toxic metal poisoning, they call it. And so here I am now, all this happened. Sick, I'm recovering, I'm at the end of my rope.
I had a million dollar home, four kids living on the golf course for all these years, and now I'm in a mobile home, getting free lunch money from school. How debilitating that was, and demeaning, but that led me to the river. What led you to the river? What was that decision? Well, it wasn't my decision, but it was, I started back to work.
Just the first job, my dad convinced me to go out and look after a big house that he was contracted to build on the coast two hours away. So I took a crew of men and had them working there. And we worked four months in 06 from October to December.
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Chapter 4: How did Chris Bledsoe's experience lead to ongoing phenomena?
And when December comes along, it was right before Christmas, I didn't need to go back. We were down to the last 10% of what they owed us, doing a punch list. So on the first day or second of January, I sent the crew back, told them to... to do their work and bring me a check back. And that's exactly what they did on January the 8th of that day. They called me, hey, boss, we got your job done.
We'd like to celebrate. We don't have to drive out of town anymore. It had been four months they'd been going in and two hours away. And so I was at home. My wife was at home. She was off with the rest of the kids, but it was Chris Jr. and I there. And so we agreed to go fishing in the middle of the day in January, and it was about 2.30 when we got to the river.
And, of course, I was very, I was having a hard time mentally, you know, depressed and struggling. And so I didn't fish. I had my son there. He was 17 then. These three grown men, they were crew leaders. They were doing roofing and framing and that. People that worked with our family for my dad for years and years. And so I thought it would be nice to get Chris Jr. down out of the house and
So we get to the river, 2.30, and I left walking. I told them, once I got them set up and I left walking about 3.30 or 4. Why did you let off? Well, I was wanting to get away and think. You know, I wasn't into fishing. I just wanted to make sure they were in there. I'm a manager, right? So I managed crews of men.
And I felt like they were sitting on the bank with a little stick with forks in the poles. So they were all set up. They're good. Yeah, they're good. I'm going to go talk to whoever's up there. Okay, so you had the intention. Yes. Okay. Yes. So I left walking and I went.
Imagine you go to the dead end of a cul-de-sac, drive down in the woods and it dead ends into a round grassy area, about an acre. Well, I walked on in the cul-de-sac. to the back of it, looking for deer. Really not looking for anything but away time, right, from me. So I'm sitting beside a big tree and it starts getting dark in the woods a lot earlier than out in the open.
I think it was 4.45, I come walking out of the woods and walked up to where they were fishing and I said, you guys wanna go home or you wanna fish some more? They're like, we just got here. We want to do some more. I said, well, it's going to get cold tonight. Better get a fire going. So everybody stopped fishing, and all four of us, there were five of us. It was me, Chris Jr., and three guys.
All five of us went around the cul-de-sac picking up dead wood, dead fallen. Had a huge pile of wood standing, sitting beside the bank, and a little fire going. So about 10 after 5, the fire was going, and I said, You know, it's going to be dark soon. I'm going to walk up to the field the way we came in, not the end of the cul-de-sac. So I walked a quarter mile up to the field. And it's up.
It's uphill. It's 100 foot elevation from the riverbank where we were fishing to this cornfield. It's a flat field. There's a gate. And I'll share the photos with the gate where I was standing. And just before I got to the top of that hill... And it's about 15 or 20 minutes after 5 now, so it's not dark yet.
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Chapter 5: What happens to Chris's dog during the encounter?
We look at the tree and stand around it 20 minutes, conversating. He's got his camera all in it and around it, right? And my black Labrador, Nellie, is laying beside us. She just would walk where we'd lend a lay down, right? So she'd been with us the whole time. Grant's like, okay, I'm done. So we start back to 75 yards from back there to the back door of the house.
All my kids are standing on the patio. They have friends there. Grant's got his camera in his hand. He's been filming the tree, right? And Nellie, and Grant and I walk right up to the patio, stop short of the patio. I'm standing on the dirt. He's standing on the patio between me and the house. He's looking at me. I'm looking at the house. Nellie's laying here beside us, right?
I said, Grant, if you want, I'll get the kids to get your bags out of the car and you can just stay the night with us. And he's like, oh, that'd be fabulous. So immediately he turns his back to me and starts toward the door. So the back door's open. We live in the country. I heat it with wood. It didn't have heat. And so I'd leave the doors open that time of year and windows and all.
And so Nellie takes off to beat us in the door. You know how a dog would do that? Try to cut you and get in front of you. But she did it. And when she did, I saw her go by and blood shoot out of her neck.
Chapter 6: How does Chris describe the healing experience?
Right out of the side of her neck, long stream of blood. Wet down Grant's pants. There was a string of blood going right on in the back of the house. And I ran in the door. Oh my God, I tackled her. on the floor, and it's LV plank flooring, you know, it's real slippery. Especially with blood, it's a slippery thing. I tackle her, and I drag her back out of the house.
She's about 80 pounds heavy, and me with rheumatoid arthritis, you know, it was adrenaline that kicked in. So I drag her out, and I lay her on the patio, and we're all looking, and Grant's down there with the camera, and she's got a hole in her neck this long. Right across her vein. We don't know how it got there.
My friend at NASA, the dragon, he suggested maybe I should look into healing because maybe the phenomenon's trying to tell me something. So I didn't think about it, but that's what happened, but... Here's how it went. She's laying there bleeding to death. I got my hand on her neck. Blood's coming up through my fingers. Every time her heart would beat, this blood would shoot out.
It's all over the floor, patios, and Grants' pits. So I knew at that moment she wasn't gonna live. Because we were 30 minutes from a vet out in the country, 25. She's gonna bleed to death before I can even get her in the car. There's just that much blood. And so I just kind of, I can remember blocking everyone out. I didn't realize who was standing there at that moment.
I just looked up at heaven. I said, Lord, you got to help her. She's going to die. And the minute I said it, I felt her struggle.
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Chapter 7: What significant event does Chris predict for October 7, 2026?
She went limp. And the picture I'll share with you has her laying there completely limp, didn't even wiggle. It went on for a while to where I had Chris Jr. go get a rag. I thought maybe we could put pressure on it and help it stop the hole. So he went in and got a washcloth, right? So everybody sees what's happening.
But the minute I said the prayer and she went limp, I lifted the washcloth off her neck and the hole was disappeared. It was gone. She just stood up and waggled her tail and walked away. Like nothing happened. Like nothing happened. Grant saw it. He documented it. He wrote a paper on it, an article or two. And so I told that to my NASA friends. And I told it to someone.
After the lady came, a whole lot of people started showing up. Well, when did the government first... 2008. How did they find you? How did they... Did you report what happened? I reported it, well, let's just say in 2007 is when it happened, right? In January. Under... my wife's wishes not to ever talk about it anymore because it was interrupting the children and the schedule.
I decided I wouldn't talk about it and try to help, but I'm Richard Dreyfuss, right? I got to talk about it. You have to. And so I went in agony. I went in depression and slept in my little office for October, 10 months.
Chapter 8: How does Chris view the relationship between consciousness and God?
I went and talked to my wife. I was so upset, felt restricted. But I understood her position with the kids, right? But I had so much anxiety and I just had to talk to somebody. So I went on the computer and found this outfit called Move On. It said, report your sighting. So I wrote it up and I didn't hit send because I knew if I did, I might lose my family.
So for two weeks there, I looked at it in agony. I finally... Hit the button. And the very next day, I get a call out of California from a guy named Jim DeManchi, I think his name was. And he's like, man, we want to come visit. We want to investigate. I'm like, hold on. I just wanted to tell somebody. I don't want y'all here. This is going to cause me a problem. So I said, no, thank you.
So January comes along. this was October, they were calling me every week. And I kept telling them no. Yeah, every week. And January comes, They called me and said, we're going to officially close the case if you don't want to talk about it. They'd already opened the case file. I said, well, okay, I'll talk about it.
So within a week, by February of that year, of 2008, I allowed them to come in February. So it happened in January of 2007. So I'm February of 08, right? A year and a month later. And We, shoot, I forgot where I was going with that. We had the government first. Yeah, so when I reported it, Jim Simivan told me that he knew the very minute that I reported it.
Because some would say move fine on the government, have a little bit of work. It's all the same. It's all the same. It's a data gathering apparatus. That's all they do is they gather data, and they use volunteer people to do it. So you get a sighting, they ask you, hey, AJ, since you had that sighting, do you want to become an investigator for MUFON? And it's exciting, right?
And they can tell if you're like Richard Dreyfuss, you'll fall for it every time. And they tried to give me a training manual, but I never, because what happened next was terrible. This is 2008, February 20th. By March, they had six or seven investigators at my house all the time, and they were convincing me to do a documentary on discovery. We're gonna vindicate you.
This was a month, two months after I met them. They already had it in place. By June, they had the whole thing shot. And I was determined to prove myself that, you know, I saw this. It really happened. And the community said, no, it didn't. You know, you're dealing with the devil. Long story short, it backfired. Yes, it did. MUFON did a hit job on you.
And what everyone points to is that you didn't pass the lie detector test, which on my channel, I tell everybody that those things do not work. Right, right. But what's not emphasized is you passed a psychiatric exam perfectly. Yeah, yeah. A perfectly sane man. Yeah. And the lie detector was a farce. They gave me 34 questions. You're only supposed to have three or four questions, you know? Right.
But they asked me 34 over and over for two hours. And it was an abusive thing. The whole thing was abuse. They just came in and filmed this show.
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