What does it take to build something meaningful in an industry obsessed with the next big thing?In this episode of This Legal Life, Ben Chiriboga sits down with Horace Wu, founder of Cynthia, to explore the journey from corporate lawyer to legal tech entrepreneur. Horace reflects on leaving private practice, the lessons learned from an early startup that was eclipsed by Google and Facebook, and why he believes the best founders solve real problems instead of following market trends.Together they unpack the evolution of legal AI, why today's conversation has become overly focused on products instead of problems, and where Horace believes the next wave of innovation will come from. Along the way, they discuss bootstrapping, creativity, listening to customers, and why building something truly useful often means going against the crowd.Whether you're a lawyer, founder, or simply curious about the future of AI, this conversation is a thoughtful reminder that lasting innovation starts by listening before you build.

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