Chapter 1: Is Gen Z really making smoking cool again?
All right, I'm going to be honest about something. I smoke sometimes. I know I shouldn't. It's a disgusting habit. It will kill me. But on occasion, when life gets stressful, and right now, life is a little stressful, I am not alone. If you've been paying attention, it feels like cigarettes are everywhere all of a sudden. Sabrina Carpenter was posed with a cigarette for Interview magazine.
Chapel Roan did a sort of Sig in the wig when she did her Tiny Desk performance. Though it looks like it's all my hair... It's a wig, so. We also had Lady Gaga referencing smoking and posing with a cigarette when she did her. So today we will be asking, is smoking back? Coming up on Today Explained, from Vox.
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Chapter 2: What role do celebrities play in the smoking revival?
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So I am Marnie Rose McFall, and I am a US news reporter for Newsweek. What do you cover? I cover between sort of culture, specifically the online zeitgeist, internet trends, social media, and US politics and current affairs. Okay, so if you're covering zeitgeisty stuff, you must be fairly young. How old are you? I'm 26. 26. So that is firmly Gen Z, right? Yeah. Yeah. I'm two years.
The cutoff is 97. So I'm 99. In your role as Newsweek's Gen Z zeitgeist correspondent, you wrote a piece about how smoking is cool again among members of your generation. Yeah. Really? What? Make the case. Tell us what's going on. Gen Z's fascination with smoking is really anchored in the way that Gen Z do things, which is it's much more about how it looks than actually practicing it.
I think one of my favorite pieces of data in how Gen Z is having this, like, pushing this smoking revival is a piece of research from the Fashion Data Account Style Analytics, where they've reported that in 2024, 2025, searches for the term smoking pose were up by 70% on Pinterest. We are seeing this huge revival in online spaces where smoking is suddenly everywhere again.
And if you look at the, even if you compare this to like the 2010s, like sort of your big pop stars today, like Sabrina Carpenter, Chapel Roan, they're posing with cigarettes, which we couldn't really picture like Taylor Swift ever doing. I think part of the smoking revival, I would really attribute it to Charli XCX and the brat era.
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Chapter 3: How has social media influenced smoking trends among Gen Z?
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Chapter 4: Are people in Gen Z actually smoking more?
If you sit down with a cup of coffee and you could throw the can out on the table, it's like, no, you don't have to be ashamed of that, right?
Part of it is people are always trying to think about, like, what's a new, different, trendy way that we can market our products? The tobacco industry, of course, has a long history of figuring out different niches that they can market to. So I think that's part of it. These are the early stages of a marketing effort.
Are you seeing that lots of people are starting to take nicotine in like pouch form or patch form? I would say yes with an asterisk, which is that, you know, this is still pretty early. So we're not necessarily capturing all of the data, for example. So the most recent youth tobacco use survey showed that it was about half a million of middle and high school students using nicotine patches.
That is not a small number, but it's also 2% of high school students. And then anecdotally, for example, I talked to one Stanford professor who said, well, based on what I see walking around campus, I think they're much more popular than that. So I think we're still trying to get an accurate grasp on the data.
The Trump administration, of course, has aligned itself with RFK, which means aligning itself with the Maha movement, which makes me question whether the messaging on nicotine has changed at all during the second Trump administration with Robert Kennedy in the position that he's in. Yeah, well, RFK himself has been spotted using what appear to be nicotine pouches.
It's been reported, alternatively, that he's using Alps, which are Tucker Carlson's brand.
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Some people have said it's Zinn. Maybe he uses both. That's a little unclear. But he does seem to be a fan of nicotine. He's also made some statements about how nicotine pouches are presumably safer than cigarettes.
Nicotine pouches are probably the safest way to consume nicotine.
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