Nigel Farage and the £5m question that won’t go away

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What sparked the Guardian investigation into Nigel Farage's finances?

Unknown 0:00
This is The Guardian.
Helen Pidd 0:09
Today, Nigel Farage's money problems.
Helen Pidd 0:20
For a while earlier this year, it looked like nothing could stop Nigel Farage heading for Downing Street. Not the allegations of schoolboy racism.
Unknown 0:28
UK leader Nigel Farage has publicly denied that he ever, and these are his words, directly racially abused anybody. Not the dodgy cameo videos.
Nigel Farage 0:38
Not the £400,000 he trousered for advertising gold bullion.
Helen Pidd 1:01
Then, at the end of April, Guardian City editor Anna Isaac delivered a game-changing scoop.
Anna Isaac 1:07
So that was a £5 million gift, as Nigel Farage has termed it, from Christopher Harbourn, who is a cryptocurrency billionaire... And it emerged that he had given this huge lump sum to Nigel Farage just weeks before the 2024 general election. Farage has come up with all manner of explanations for the gift. From, I can use it to buy Ferraris if I want. It's unconditional. It was unconditional, but it was absolutely predicated on security costs and also that it was a reward for Brexit campaigning.
Helen Pidd 1:44
It set off a domino run of allegations against the reform leader and other reform figures, including his deputy leader.
Unknown 1:50
Some breaking news. Reform UK MP for Boston, Skegness Richard Tice, is being investigated by parliamentary authorities over an alleged failure to declare an interest. The parliamentary case for standards confirmed earlier this morning.
Helen Pidd 2:01
And George Cottrell, better known as Posh George, who served time in a US jail for wire fraud.
Unknown 2:08
His name's George Cottrell and he's in the news because he financially supported Farage in the year before he became an MP and the Reform UK leader didn't register the benefit, which is why several parties have referred him to Parliament's standards watchdog. Farage.
Helen Pidd 2:21
And on the weekend, new revelations emerged about an alleged deal struck between Tice and Farage, suggesting Farage had decided to return to politics before that £5 million landed in his bank account. And the awkward questions keep coming.
Unknown 2:36
In 2024, did you negotiate a deal on what would happen to reforms finances if you came back as leader at a time when you were suggesting you had no plans to return to electoral politics. Can you be absolutely clear and honest? When did you start thinking about returning to Parliament and becoming the leader of the Reform Party?
Helen Pidd 2:59
From The Guardian, I'm Helen Pidd. Today in Focus, Farage and the £5 million question that won't go away. Anna Isaac, welcome back to Today in Focus. Nice to see you. Nice to be here. So you're the Guardian City editor, but I think you deserve another title, which is the Guardian Scoop Queen, because your reporting on reform has, I really do think, changed the political weather so much in the past few months. So I salute you, and I'm very, very glad that you're here today. And there have been so many twists and turns to all of these stories, and we're going to get into all of those. But can you start by telling us what made you want to look into reforms finances?
Anna Isaac 3:38
I've always been interested in money meets politics, but I think for a long time you were looking at this extraordinary ascendancy of this political party, right? So although it had existed for a few years, it was still regarded as very new and sort of national major politics beyond the Brexit issue when it came to the 2024 election. And I was starting to take a closer look at the money behind it and who was driving it and whether the same people that had supported the Brexit party, its precursor, or were we seeing some new faces or different ways of political party fundraising? And that's what sort of led me towards these recent stories.
Helen Pidd 4:13
And how difficult was it to delve into their finances and to follow the trail of the money?
Anna Isaac 4:17
It can be tough.

How was the £5 million donation from Christopher Harborne first revealed and described?

Anna Isaac 4:18
It can take a really long time. It's a group of people around the party who feel very protective of it, who feel that a lot of the media isn't giving it a fair hearing and things like that. And so I had to work pretty hard, both working sort of financial industry sources, which obviously I have a background in, but also working on news sources and trying to explain it was just about telling the facts.

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