Have you considered an apprenticeship?

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What is the overall purpose of the apprenticeship episode and who are the guests?

David McCullagh 0:00
Now, last week on the programme we heard that the Law Society of Ireland is launching its first ever solicitor apprenticeship program. As of this year, there are eighty-seven apprenticeship programmes in this country across 17 different sectors. After our discussion last week, we were inundated with messages and emails looking for more information on what it's like to do an apprenticeship and how to get into one. So who better to tell us about it than three people who are on That very uh course. I'm joined in studio by recently qualified hairdresser Philip McDonald Lamb. Congratulations. Uh full-time apprentice with AXA Insurance, Tracy Nakawaya, and from our Cork studio by Electrical Apprentice Laura Fitzgerald.
David McCullagh 0:40
Good morning to you all. Tracy, let's start with you. An insurance apprentice. I've never heard of that heard of that before. Is it is it a common thing? Are there many of you?
Tracey Nakawooya 0:49
Um, yeah, it's quite there's a few of us and it's quite a recent program as well. But it's a very good program and it's, you know, four days working, one day studying and you get to earn and study and, you know, bring everything back that you're learning to your actual work. So it's
David McCullagh 1:07
that sounds good. And uh tell us about your your background, how you found yourself on this particular course.
Tracey Nakawooya 1:12
Yeah, so um I did my living start during the COVID, you know, lockdown. Yeah. So
David McCullagh 1:18
I'm sorry for your troubles.
Tracey Nakawooya 1:20
Thank you. Um so I did a year in DCU social sciences and but I I was just missing that social aspect of it. So I dropped out after that first year and I was working for a bit after that. Then I decided that I felt I needed to actually go back into education to, you know, further my career. So I did a PLC in business and finance at the Rathmines College and Yeah, so from that I was uh talking with my guidance counselors. I told them I actually don't really wanna do that traditional route. I'd love to s know if there's other options out there and that's when they presented their apprenticeship route to me and I got to learn about the insurance apprenticeship and from there now I'm my in my second year now, so yeah, it's been
David McCullagh 2:02
And how long is it?

How does Tracy Nakawoya describe a typical week as an insurance apprentice?

David McCullagh 2:03
How long does it take? It's a three year programme. Okay, okay. So you're you're well into it. That decision to drop out of college in in after first year, like a lot of people would see, ooh drama. Um a and a big decision. But if it's not suiting you, it's not suiting you.
Tracey Nakawooya 2:16
Yeah. I just felt like it was just I prefer a more hands on way of learning and it just did not the traditional way did not feel
David McCullagh 2:24
Like it was for me. Would it have been different if it wasn't COVID and you weren't doing your lectures on Zoom?
Tracey Nakawooya 2:29
Well, we were here at this point now, so I couldn't tell you.
David McCullagh 2:33
Fair enough. It's a very diplomatic answer. Uh Philip I'll move on to Philip. Um you went to college as well and you finished a degree.
Philip McDonagh Lambe 2:40
So I did four years in DCU, I studied business and Irish. So looking to maybe go on and do a masters of education. But kind of at that point I was like the proper education route wasn't really for me, so I took a bit of time out thinking what did I really want to do. I liked the idea of school teaching and stuff like that, but I just I couldn't see myself in a classroom for twenty, thirty years, so took a bit of time out and found hairdressing and got the opportunity to go down the apprentice.
David McCullagh 3:06
And how d I mean how
Philip McDonagh Lambe 3:07
how do you just fall into hairdressing? I mean I think growing up it was always something that I like the idea of hairdressing barber and that kind of avenue. Like I have family members who would say, I could have told you fifteen years ago it's what you were gonna do. So it was kind of just I think the time that I was at, I was like, right, I'm gonna give it a go. If I like it, I like it. If I don't then I can just go back into the uh third level education route.
David McCullagh 3:28
Yeah, and ha uh the apprenticeship, how how did that come about?
Philip McDonagh Lambe 3:32
So one of the salons that I was working in in the at the time were involved in the apprenticeship programme. It was actually the second year of the hairdressing uh apprenticeship programme.

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