Educational Practices for Neurodivergent Students: We Can Do So Much Better - with Dr. Shelley Moore
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What inspired Dr. Shelley Moore to focus on inclusive education for neurodivergent students?
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Hi, I'm Dr. Barry Prazant, clinical scholar, researcher, and consultant on autism and neurodiversity, and a Brooklyn boy raised in the big city. And I'm
Dave. I'm none of those things, and I grew up on a farm in Illinois. But being on the spectrum myself, I have plenty of personal insight to lend.
This is Uniquely Human The Podcast, a show that illuminates and celebrates autism and neurodiversity.
Today on uniquely human the podcast, we are thrilled and excited, and we'll probably get more excited as we go on. To have Dr. Shelly Moore with us today. So hi Shelly.
Oh hello everyone. It's so nice to be here.
And it's it's great to have you. I mean, for many reasons, but one reason in particular is as you do, I also do a lot of in school and classroom consulting. And many of our guests um are on different topics, or that's not their area of focus. So I'm really looking forward to what we're gonna talk about.
Let's do it. Let's do it.
But first a little bit about you. Okay. So Dr. Shelley Moore is based in British Columbia, one of my favorite favorite places in the world. And she is a highly sought after, inclusive education researcher, teacher, speaker, consultant, and something near to my heart, storyteller.
My favorite part.
She has worked with school districts and community organizations around the world, and her research explores how to support teachers to design for all learners in grade level academic classrooms that include students with intellectual disabilities and your focus, which of course is why we're having you is on strength-based and responsive approaches. Uh Shelly completed her undergraduate degree in special education. At the University of Alberta, your master's at Simon Fraser University, and PhD at the University of British Columbia. And when our listeners listen to this podcast, you need to know that Shelly offers a variety of opportunities for classroom, school, district, and systems level learning through live and online trainings.
Yes.
Thanks. Thanks, guys. Thanks for the shout out.
Oh sure. And and actually we we had the pleasure together to be on Ross Green's Lives in the Balance summit recently. And boy did you energize the audience. Oh and Oh
man.
I was in the audience. So
Well, if you felt energized, then I'm happy. I'm happy.
So we want to know. What makes Dr. Shelley Moore, Dr. Shelley Moore? So if you could tell us a little bit about your journey, your career and and especially what led you to focusing on inclusion and and supporting schools. Yeah,
that's a that's a good question. So I uh Um oh man, where should we even start? You know what I'm gonna start with? I'm gonna start with one of my favorite people, Dan Habib. Do you know Dan Habib? I do not know
Dan.
So Dan Habib is a parent, first of all, parent advocate. He's also a filmmaker. His son is Samuel Habib, who just won an Emmy. for his uh for his for his video. And uh so he's a self-advocate. And so he was um Dan Habib was an early kind of guiding light for me as an educator trying to do this work. And so I I sought out to see him at a conference he was speaking in in Vancouver and I was so excited to talk to him. And at the time I was working in a high school, secondary school grades eight to twelve, supporting students with intellectual disabilities and really trying to figure out what inclusion meant for them because I had this like feeling in my gut that being in the corner of the school was not inclusion.
But a lot of people thought it was, right? And that joining physed class was enough and I'm like This just doesn't feel right. And so he was a guiding light because he seemed he seemed to like have this
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
What inspired Dr. Shelley Moore to focus on inclusive education for neurodivergent students?
0:00–7:33
2
How did early mentors and personal challenges shape Shelley’s view of neuro‑affirming schools?
7:33–16:06
3
What is the “mountain” metaphor and why does it matter for educators?
16:06–24:52
4
How does Universal Design for Learning (UDL) differ from traditional forward‑design teaching?
24:52–31:45
5
Why is learning through story and experience more effective than de‑contextualized testing?
31:45–38:59
6
What are the five P’s (Presuming competence, Placement, Purposeful goals, etc.) for truly inclusive classrooms?
38:59–45:06
7
How can schools address bullying as a community issue rather than a disability issue?
45:06–51:21
8
What practical steps can teachers and administrators take to build successful co‑teaching partnerships?
51:21–58:58
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