Sleep Disturbances in Autism and Neurodivergent Conditions, with Dr. Beth Malow

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Barry Prazant 0:39
Hi, I'm Dr. Barry Prazant, clinical scholar, researcher, and consultant on autism and neurodiversity, and a Brooklyn boy raised in the big city. And
Dave 0:50
I'm Dave. I'm none of those things, and I grew up on a farm in Illinois. But being on the spectrum myself, I have plenty of personal insight to lend.
Barry Prazant 0:59
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Dave 0:59
this is
Barry Prazant 1:00
Uniquely human the podcast, a show that illuminates and celebrates autism and neurodiversity.
Barry Prazant 1:15
Today on Uniquely Human the Podcast, we are having a discussion about a topic that so many of our listeners have asked about. And for the longest time I've been searching for the perfect person to talk about sleep issues in autism and neurodivergent children and adults. So welcome, Dr. Beth Mallow.
Dr. Beth Malow 1:36
Thank you. I'm glad to be here.
Dave 1:40
I'm glad you're here because I'm on five hours of sleep uh for the last three nights. So I'm I'm interested to see what you have to say.
Barry Prazant 1:47
Yes, that's for sure. So a little bit about you, Beth. Uh doctor Beth Mallow is a professor of neurology and pediatrics in the Vanderbilt Sleep Division, and holds the Bury Endow Chair in Cognitive Childhood Development. Dr. Mallow is board certified in neurology and sleep medicine. She previously served as vice chair for research and academic affairs within neurology and vice chair of the governor-appointed Tennessee Autism Council. Well, pretty full schedule there. She also served as principal investigator for Vanderbilt's Autism Treatment Network, one of the regional autism centers across North America. America? That develops standards of medical care for children with autism? Prior to joining the faculty at Vanderbilt
Barry Prazant 2:36
Beth was a tenured associate professor of neurology at the University of Michigan and director of the Sleep Medicine Fellowship Program and General Clinical Research Center Sleep Program. She is also the parent of two autistic individuals and co-author of Beyond the Politics of Contempt: Practical Steps for Building Positive Relationships in Divided Times. And we're also interested in hearing about that new work of yours as well. Needed more than ever. Yes. For sure, divided times uh goes without saying. So um Our listeners are very often interested in the journey of our guests. So if you could talk a little bit about your professional and personal journey and what brought you to focus on both neurology and sleep disorders.
Dr. Beth Malow 3:28
Well, thank you. It's such a pleasure to be here, Barry. I would say that even as a kid, I was so interested in how the brain worked and what made people tick. And my brother was a psychologist and I would read all of his books, right? And like BF Skinner and different different books as I was growing up. And I thought about medicine because I thought, wow, it'll give me all this opportunity to really focus. And initially I was gonna be a psychiatrist and yet I was also interested in in kind of the brain aspect. And some psychiatry is that way. I I don't wanna make it sound like it isn't, but there was something about neurology and focusing on the brain and uh really drew me in. Uh so I became a neurologist and then after my kids were uh born and and diagnosed with autism, I moved from actually just being a general sleep
Dr. Beth Malow 4:33
person to being a sleep and autism expert. Um, sleep that of course interested me from the from the get-go because I was so fascinated by what happens when we dream and How when we sleep it seems to improve every aspect of our lives. And then I kind of tagged on the autism later.
Barry Prazant 4:55
Yeah. You know, a as a speech language pathologist, when I've consulted the schools and programs and a teacher would say, Um, this youngster comes in so dysregulated.

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