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Untraditionally Lala

Ocean Has a Lot To Say

08 Jun 2026

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Chapter 1: What childhood stories does Ocean share with Lala and Easton?

0.031 - 10.209 Lala Kent

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19.505 - 21.51 Alec Baldwin

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23.835 - 29.969 Alec Baldwin

I told him. Whoa. We were filming Anchorman. Clearly, I was the idiot. Thank God he didn't listen to me, right?

29.989 - 37.904 Tati Mellencamp

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37.924 - 58.688 Tamara Judge

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65.675 - 76.133 Alec Baldwin

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Chapter 2: How do Lala and Easton feel about co-parenting dynamics?

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127.522 - 157.682 Lala Kent

hello gorgeous it's lala kent welcome to untraditionally lala hello gorgeous welcome to the bonus episode of untraditionally lala i am here with tt hello hello matey we were balls deep and watching uh the valley the val yo it's It's pretty bitchin' now. Too bad I'm not. Too bad we can't talk about it. Too bad I'm not still talking about it. It's getting really good.

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157.722 - 187.783 Lala Kent

A lot of people had written in to Untraditionally Lala's Instagram page, and people are really interested in your life, Easton. Like, what is your day-to-day and all of those things? what we do to maintain keeping a small circle, the co-parenting, which is obviously very untraditional when it comes to thinking about the way my household works. I co-parent with my mom. I co-parent with Easton.

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187.863 - 211.856 Lala Kent

And just kind of like this stage of life, so many people, because I think a lot of people that listen to the podcast They're moms. They are maybe going through breakups. They're venturing back into dating as single moms. It's all just a lot. And dipping your toe in the waters can feel like you're taking the giant leap of faith that you never thought you'd ever have to make.

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212.136 - 221.387 Lala Kent

That made me feel scared. When you lived in Utah, T, did you have, I feel like you never had a small circle until age got you.

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Yeah.

222.562 - 246.424 Lala Kent

Yeah, I mean, in Utah, Landon, I mean, my circle was pretty small. Would I go out with a whole bunch of people? Yeah, but like, they weren't my people, you know, if that makes sense. But like Landon, who lived, who was a roommate, my roommate, like that, I hung out with him. Jake, Taylor, still talk to them. But with Landon comes a lot of do.

246.944 - 273.65 Lala Kent

So I would just hang out with Landon and Landon would plan a lot of things. I'm not a planner, so now I don't do. If that makes sense. Yeah. But I also. Like Janet is Landon for you. Janet's the planner. Yeah. But even Michelle is the planner. Okay. Like if Janet didn't plan like Nate Bargatze or now we're going to a monster truck thing. It's like without any of that, I wouldn't see anybody.

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Because I don't plan.

Chapter 3: What challenges do they face in co-parenting?

352.876 - 371.402 Lala Kent

I don't post. They got big on social media during COVID. Yeah, they're huge on social media. Like, those are really good friends. I hang out with them a good amount. Do I post with them? No, I'm just with them. Yeah, just in the moment, living life. So, like, I kick it with a good amount of people. Dina, who does your hair. Like, I have a lot of friends in big circles. I just don't post. I feel...

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372.968 - 393.373 Lala Kent

Do you feel like you're almost invading their personal space when you're like, Hey, let me get a photo for my Instagram. I feel awkward. Yeah. So like, but I also hate taking pictures. That's where I, so my, I have a, like, I do a lot of things, a whole lot of things. Like I wasn't even home this weekend. I know it was a bummer. Yeah. So like, but I wasn't post anything.

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394.467 - 422.179 Lala Kent

Yeah, but I think there's something to... And I don't think you have to be sober to be aware of your surroundings. Just for me, getting sober brought a lot of clarity. And then going through just different experiences in life, there was a period of time where people would say, you know, she doesn't have any friends. And sometimes people would blame it on the way that I move.

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422.345 - 450.901 Lala Kent

I am very quick to burn a bridge. The moment I don't feel that something is serving me in my life, I am okay to let that go. I have structured my life so that I don't have a lot of headaches, so that I don't have a lot of drama and making sure that there's no liabilities because wherever I started to where I am now, there is a lot to lose and I want to continue building.

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451.382 - 479.591 Lala Kent

And the moment you open yourself up to a broader circle, and that doesn't mean I don't go out with people, but to really get in, to get close, right? I have to really be down for you. The moment I feel that there's a relationship that just doesn't fill my cup anymore, I'm I'm pouring gasoline all over it and torching it. And I don't even think twice about it because it's just not for me anymore.

479.932 - 497.523 Lala Kent

And I can go back and say that, yeah, I miss certain friendships, but I can miss something and not ever want it back in my life at the same time. Does that make sense? 100%. I miss a lot of things when I ever... I miss a lot of things of... In my life, just growing up, don't want any of them back.

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Right.

498.083 - 516.069 Lala Kent

There's great memories. There's great things where I think back and I'm like, those were amazing times. Do I want it back? No, no, no. Perfect example. Some of my funnest times were when I was wasted off my ass. Does that mean I want to go back to getting wasted off my ass? No. But I look back and go, you know, I missed that time in life. That was kind of fun.

516.129 - 531.364 Lala Kent

And then you see where you're at and you're like, I don't miss it though. I don't want it back. And that's where I'm at in life. There are friendships that I look at and it's like, I'm going to rock with you through the thick and thin. And I believe that, that we're in alignment and we are cut from the same cloth.

Chapter 4: How does Ocean's time with her father affect her behavior?

541.138 - 561.125 Lala Kent

No. Tell me more. So people, it's like you're on a train and people get on and off the train. You're not supposed to know everybody. They just get on. You're supposed to know them for this little short period of time on your train. And when that stop comes and you no longer talk to it, it doesn't, that doesn't mean anything. Just you're on your own. The train keeps going.

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561.365 - 571.379 Lala Kent

They're off on their stop. We're all doing our own thing, but it's the train theory. I just feel like, but I love that. And it's- Or the season, some for a reason, some for a season.

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Some are forever.

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572.361 - 597.678 Lala Kent

Like, I just feel like if there are people who, like divorce is not looked at as like a big deal, but when someone is not friends with people like that directly, people are like, you need to look in the mirror. You lost a lot of friends. It's like, if I can sleep next to somebody, procreate with them, if we can do that, and then- End marriages, like ending a friendship ain't a thing.

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It's not a big deal.

599.019 - 624.342 Lala Kent

No, everything's a coin toss. It's all good. And I like having a tight group. I have opened myself up to broader things. And let me tell you, they brought me drama, a freaking headache. I was like, this is not for me. I'm going back to staying in my lane and doing my thing with the group that I've had around me who fuck with me hard, right? And I fuck with them hard. As far as like,

624.322 - 645.612 Lala Kent

keeping a tight circle as well. I also, we have it different because we have such a tight circle. family unit where like, yes, I am co-parenting with my mom and my brother. And I, I know I told you guys about this. It's called the mom edit and it's by shop today. So today show affiliate.

646.453 - 672.89 Lala Kent

And when we were talking about our experiences in motherhood, you know, I had the cookie cutter, but then I also had the other side, which is going to be very, very weird for people. When I decided to venture into parenting, the sperm donor of it all, like I did have to consult with my mom. And I did have to ask Easton, like, how do you guys feel about this? And I know it sounds strange.

672.91 - 693.716 Lala Kent

If you don't get it, it's my normal. So when I think about it, I'm like, whatever. But it's... Take us out of it. Like, take our family. Like, any family. Like, I'll just... The Russins, because we're close to them. Say Dane and Candace weren't Dane and Candace and just Candace. And she wanted to have a baby. On her own.

Chapter 5: What are the emotional struggles of being a working mom?

733.925 - 758.903 Lala Kent

dina our friend dina she's taking care of her little nephew as well like it's a it takes a village man i'm not kidding you and she does the same thing and she wouldn't have it any other way exactly so when i say when you find your little circle where you guys it's not even about like you guys have things in common like oh i go to this place and you go to this place and we both it's it's a bond so beyond like you don't go out and drink at a bar you just

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758.883 - 771.087 Lala Kent

You just know. It's just a feeling where it's like you're cut from the same cloth I was cut from. We're going through the same things. And when you do come in, you're like, oh, I had to do this, this, and this. Even if you don't bring it up, it's like, I get you. It's busy.

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We're busy.

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772.129 - 805.21 Lala Kent

And I have to say, like the conversation is, I feel has become very, very apparent and broad, which makes me so happy that you really have to be careful about who you have children with. And every time, because here's the thing, I'm a smart bitch, but I can get very unsmart when a man enters my atmosphere. And it has to be like just that type of guy where I become very fucking stupid.

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805.47 - 826.425 Lala Kent

And I start thinking like, oh, I'm going to do this. I could be cool with that. Well, let me ask, but let me put it this way. Like the marriage and all that. How long were Kyle and Amanda? Right there. That's the same thing of like... If you were to have kids in that thing, it can, no matter who. How quickly it can shift. How quickly. Even just, he wanted a new career.

826.485 - 828.368 Lala Kent

Like, if they had a kid and he wanted.

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Shifted everything.

828.989 - 848.944 Lala Kent

That is where it's like, even if you think that you have the right person, I'm sorry. There's so many things that have happened in other people's life where I'm like. But why wouldn't it happen to me? You know, that's where I'm at. Statistically. Yeah. Like I'm like, gosh, why even risk it? Because 60% of marriages are not going to work out. And let me tell you something.

849.444 - 855.23 Lala Kent

You always say love and hate are in the same emotion. No crying and crying and laughing.

Chapter 6: How do they manage feelings of guilt related to parenting?

915.175 - 943.58 Lala Kent

Bedtime is going to be the same. Did you? Yeah, because you were gone. So I was like, yeah, she was, she's a mess. And we swam. She had SPF all over her. So we had to get it off. I love it. When I send Ocean to my actual co-parent, this girl came back five days in Miami. And she said, you got to reset him. You got to reset him. Let me put it this way. My sister, we all do great.

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943.6 - 972.709 Lala Kent

But my law is a very, she's an amazing mother. Thank you, Easton. Of course, this child, Ocean, is amazing. I, words cannot describe how perfect, how nice, just the human that she is, is just what she is meant to be. And when she goes to her father's, it's like she just was reset into somebody that I don't even know. Yeah. And then after a couple of days, I'm like, okay, here she is.

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973.129 - 987.757 Lala Kent

And then she's got to go back. And then she's got to go back. Number one hits, millions of records sold, awards, sold out tours. You think the Jonas Brothers are satisfied?

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989.642 - 993.192 Alec Baldwin

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997.023 - 1007.488 Alec Baldwin

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Chapter 7: What insights do they share about maintaining friendships?

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1133.238 - 1137.424 Tamara Judge

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1137.945 - 1148.161 Lala Kent

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1148.842 - 1168.781 Tamara Judge

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1169.281 - 1178.229 Lala Kent

My daughter, she's pretending she doesn't know, but is trying to cook and feed me and keep me alive because I wasn't eating anything, and me pretending like everything was fine.

1178.85 - 1185.476 Tati Mellencamp

He kind of shoved me out of the way and said, move, and he went out the front door and he jumped in a car and drove off, and that was the last time I saw him.

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1198.645 - 1225.455 Lala Kent

So there's two parts of this. She came home from Miami. And keep in mind, my daughter is five now. She's well aware of where she is, what she's doing. So co-parenting is extremely difficult with this person because there's a lot of secrets. We have to tell each other where the child is staying. This is just out of safety and knowing where your child is, right? And let me ask you this.

Chapter 8: How do they celebrate milestones in their children's lives?

1373.965 - 1402.158 Lala Kent

That is fucking asinine to me. Dad's amazing. I had a fantastic father. But if you sit here and tell me that the court system is designed to protect the well-being of the fucking child, you are so up in the night. Women are looked at in that family court system as the fucking enemy. The child is not protected in the least. Their voice doesn't even matter until they're 14. 14.

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1402.899 - 1425.607 Lala Kent

My daughter the other day didn't want to do something. She didn't want to fly to Miami. And I said, baby, you have to. She goes, so I don't even have a say? My five-year-old, I don't even have a say. And here's the thing. My job as her mom is to... to keep her in her little bubble. And I said, you always have a say, and you know, we got to redirect her. We got to redirect her.

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1426.048 - 1441.564 Lala Kent

And you know, every time you go to Miami, you have the best time. You get to go to the beach. You get to go to the boat. You know, you're going to have the best time. And then she starts to smile. I tickle her and do whatever just to get her off of that, the loop, because that's what kids can do. Sometimes they loop.

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1441.624 - 1468.333 Lala Kent

We can't feed into it, but it's just a struggle for me that I have to be okay with, with not knowing where my child is. Yes, I can tap my lawyer in and we can do the best we fucking can. But by the time that sees a judge or a court system, 300 other things have happened. They're dealing with kids who are actually dealing with really, really sketchy homes. They just don't care.

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1468.433 - 1494.062 Lala Kent

And by the way, there's bigger fish to fry. But it is complicated. So dealing with my mom and my brother as the co-parents, although it seems weird for other people, guess what? It is nothing but smooth sailing and peace of mind and my baby in just a stable freaking home at all times. Not saying that it's unstable for Ocean. She's never going to know the difference.

1494.886 - 1513.769 Lala Kent

I got to know where my fucking kid is. I got to know where she is. I don't care where you live. I don't care what you do on your free time. I got to know that if something happens to Ocean, that I know where the fuck she is. Why do people think what we have is weird? It's like a sister calling their brother and being like, hey. People think that's weird.

1513.869 - 1534.307 Lala Kent

We can go and find random men who we fall in love with and get to know, but... You co-parenting with your brother who you've known since birth. That's weird. Well, number one, like those are my nieces. And, you know, like I want to protect them. And you do. You're the best uncle on the planet. Well, thank you. But no, I don't know.

1534.427 - 1552.48 Lala Kent

The one thing that I've noticed that I don't know if a lot of guys that I've seen on reality TV shows and shit is like when you have a kid with your significant other. The word you doesn't exist anymore. It's never about you. You do things. That's a tough pill to swallow too.

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It is, but guess what?

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