Often known for the phrase, “If it’s not a hell yes, it’s a no,” Derek Sivers has a refreshing approach to saying no and minimalism that’s been especially helpful to me. The entrepreneur, who started and sold CD Baby for millions of dollars and gave much of it away, has also been a musician, producer, circus performer, entrepreneur, TED Speaker, and book publisher. He’s lived in different places around the world, often for a year or so at a time, and he is a huge fan of New Zealand, also my favorite country. His voice is also very calming. On this podcast, we go over everything from how saying no to things allows you to say YES to the things that matter, minimalism, and what brings Derek more joy. We recorded this episode back in April in quarantine, but even as we get back to a new normal, this message is more important than ever. Connect with Derek Sivers: Website Twitter Sponsors: BoxUnion Digital, Check it out with a 14-day FREE trial and 33% off your first two months (just $20) with promo code VITAMINJOY ACTIVE, Real science for clean skin. Code JOY25 for 25% off your first order.

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