The AEO, SEO & GEO Debate
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Voices of Search // A Search Engine Optimization (SEO) & Content Marketing Podcast
34 min
2 speakers
8 chapters
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What are zero‑click searches and why do they matter for SEO?
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Search visibility now demands more than just keywords. SEO strategies are evolving fast, and the evolution of AEO and GEO are now pressing the SEO strategies of the past. So, how should search professionals adapt? According to Single Grain's May 2025 report, zero-click searches now dominate. 65% of Google searches globally and in 2024 ended with a zero-click experience. And that share is expected to exceed 70% in 2025. This shift makes AEO, which targets featured snippet, voice results. Results and AI responses absolutely essential alongside traditional SEO. Here's the challenge. SEO teams face tough choices now. What is this new name for SEO? AEO focuses on delivering direct answers. GEO targets visibility within AI-generated summaries.
Traditional SEO still drives the majority of organic traffic. Yeah. How can we balance these competing priorities? This is the Voice of Search Podcast. I'm Jordan Cooney, and joining me today is Amy Jarenka, SEO strategist at SEO Sustainable, which builds strategy and workflows for the future of search. Today, Amy and I will share how to effectively integrate AEO, SEO, and GEO for the maximum service. Amy, welcome to the Voiceless Search podcast.
Thank you. It's great to be here.
So I'm so glad that you're on the show. We've actually had some really fun prep sessions, and we've gotten to talk a lot about your kind of growth and your journey in building your SEO career. And so before we get into all the crazy questions about what is SEO now, what the heck is this thing that we're evolving into when it comes to consumer discovery? Tell our listeners a little bit about yourself. yourself, how you got into the SEO game and and and what what you do now and how you're exploring this industry.
Yeah. So I've been around for about ten years. Um, I wanted out of the customer service department. And as a company I was at was creating a marketing department. And uh so I uh started to bounce around and did a few things and then I there was one. Meeting with a new consultant that was SEO and she laid out everything that was going on. It was right after Penguin and Panda and how the web works and how complicated it was and I saw that it was a giant puzzle and I was like, I'm in. Um, not only is it a puzzle to play with, but it's also a way to do marketing that adds value to users. And so I really liked those side things, and that's how I ended up there. You know, over the years I've been able to do some enterprise and been able to do agency and try a lot of different things.
But when AI came out, um it just was exciting and fun to me. So as an early adopter and I've been watching it and I really see the shifts of how we're searching changing, behaviors changing, and how we're gonna do our jobs differently as SEO, AEOs, GEOs, what have you, um, and how that's playing out as a really fun time for For us.
It really is. I think it's like the craziest time that we've seen in our industry. It's probably the most transformative in the SEO history, at least since since really the introduction and expansion of mobile and how Google really was going to prioritize mobile over any other experience. Let's talk about this. Let's talk about this thing, this beast that is what is these three-letter acronyms, AEO. SEO GEO. Tell us how you define this. How would you define these and how would you define these expectations to our audience, to the SEO community at large?
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
What are zero‑click searches and why do they matter for SEO?
0:00–5:33
2
How do AEO, GEO, and traditional SEO differ and why are they important?
5:33–9:42
3
What is the guest’s background and how did she get into SEO?
9:42–14:17
4
How does the guest define AEO, GEO, and SEO for listeners?
14:17–18:58
5
What is “chunkability” and how should content be optimized for AI bots?
18:58–24:13
6
How can marketers track conversions across multiple LLMs like ChatGPT and Gemini?
24:13–27:56
7
What metrics and KPIs should be used to measure success in a mixed AEO/SEO/GEO strategy?
27:56–31:44
8
What practical steps can SEOs take right now to adapt to the AI‑first search landscape?
31:44–33:57