The most overrated SEO tactic right now

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What is the most overrated SEO tactic according to Karl Kleinschmidt?

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Jordan Cooney 0:21
com. I'm Jordan Cooney, and joining me today is Carl Kleinschmann, founder at Data Marketing Group, an 18-year SEO veteran focused on local SEO, large-scale data systems, and LLM optimization. Today we're talking about fan out analysis, local rank tracking, and why LLM optimization is really about intent, not keywords.

How does fan‑out analysis help map user intent beyond traditional keywords?

Jordan Cooney 0:44
What's the most overrated SEO tactic right now?
Carl Kleinschmidt 0:48
LLM manipulation where you keep on pinging the LLM and argue with it and say, no, I am actually the best. I am confident it will give you short term results, but it is it's like CTR manipulation, right? Like you search the same thing over and click on the same results. Maybe in the short term you get results. In the long term, you're not bringing your client any uh good results.
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Why is LLM optimization focused on intent rather than keyword stuffing?

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You could start replying to spam from agencies that claim they can get you to rank number one on Google. You can pay an hourly rate for a consultant who will inevitably nickel and dime you with hourly charges, or you can work with a cookie cutter agency to quickly launch a strategy-less project with low success rate. None of those sound very good. Now do they? Well, that's where Previsible's integrated consulting model comes in. Previsible draws from a collective 40 years of SEO and digital marketing experience to unlock your organic growth opportunities. They build custom solutions that combine strategy, technical expertise, content, and reporting to effectively operationalize SEO for your business.
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Jordan Cooney 2:42
A huge thank you to Carl Kleinschmidt, founder at Data Marketing Group, for joining us.

How can custom data collection integrate Search Console with LLM performance tracking?

Jordan Cooney 2:47
If you'd like to contact Carl, you can find a link to his LinkedIn profile in our show notes or on the voices of search.com. You can also visit his company website, Carl K.ai. If you haven't subscribed yet and want a daily stream of SEO and content marketing knowledge in your podcast feed, hit the subscribe button in Podcast App or on YouTube and we'll be in your feed every week. Okay, that's all for today, but until next time, remember the answers are always in the data.

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