Why This Was Graham's Easiest Madonna Interview Yet...
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What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
Madonna songs are really personal.
What insights does Graham share about his easiest interview with Madonna?
But for some reason, we don't do deep dives. We just gotta go, oh, I like this one, I don't like that one. That's all we do. I'm not a qualified therapist. I'm just a bloke from the street. Yeah, I was here for the washer and dryer. Tell them to off. We're playing the off game. Say, oh, off.
How does Graham feel about being considered a friend by Madonna?
It'll be ready by Tuesday.
It is time for half an hour of questionable advice and so-so solutions with myself, Graham Norton, and my colleague, and what does it say? Colleague and partner, Maria McCurlin. Have you requested them not to say friend anymore?
I thought so, especially as you didn't invite me to come and see you interview the queen, whose new album is fabulous.
Do you know, that new album is, because there's always, you know, because I love Madonna. We're talking about Madonna. And her album is called Confessions 2, yeah. And, you know, you kind of think, oh, please be good, please be good, please be good. And it's so good.
Is it normal to develop feelings for your therapist?
And it's interesting because she is one of those people, I think she's the only legacy artist who's still creating music, who is always trying to find the next sound, the new thing. Whereas most legacy artists are quite happy to just, you know, make the same music over and over again.
Although this is part two. Something that she did in what year?
2005. So 20 years ago with Stuart Price and Stuart Price is back. But what I'm saying is that's what's unique about this. She's not that person. You know, you don't listen to the new Coldplay album going, wow, it doesn't sound like Coldplay.
What advice does Graham give on dealing with inappropriate feelings in therapy?
They've gone all country and western. It always sounds like Coldplay. It does. Whereas... You know, often you just do a Madonna album and you're like, oh, this is Madonna? Anyway, this is so good, really dancey.
I wanted to know how many times you have interviewed her.
Well, I've interviewed her being filmed three times and then I did a thing with her at Alexandra Palace. That was a live thing, wasn't it? Live thing, where... where people had flown in from all over the world.
What are the common experiences of women facing mansplaining?
Amazing. Her fan base is extraordinary. And they just adore her. And I remember before we got going, the record label gave me a list of questions that I could ask Madonna. These are the approved questions. Off you go. So it was an hour event, talking to Madonna. And at the end, I was going to be allowed to get two questions from the audience, okay? Just two questions from the audience.
How can one effectively handle mansplaining situations?
That was going to be exciting and random. We didn't know what we were going to get. So I have my list of questions. I'm chatting to Madonna. I turn on the page. I've come to the last question, and that's taken 20 minutes.
Oh, no.
Yeah. We got about 50 questions for the audience. But I'm sure they were delighted by that.
What humorous strategies can be used to cope with annoying customer behavior?
It turned out much better. Yeah. And also because it became chaotic because all the fans, it's so weird, the fans want her to write on them. So they can get a tattoo. Yeah, so they can tattoo the autograph. And it was the day the Madame X album came out. And so they were all running forward and she went, no, I will only sign you if you've already got a Madame X tattoo. And you thought, oh, like that'll be nobody. Oh no, there was about 20 people who already had a Madame X tattoo. Yeah, still there.
I mean, I'm slightly against this deification of human beings, you know, who sing for a living. But I think maybe in the absence of anything else, we don't have religion anymore. So we have Madonna and Taylor Swift.
And also, I think there was a time when, you know, Madonna was doing stuff, particularly for the gay community, you know, during AIDS and things, where, you know, it was kind of a dark time and there weren't really that many people to kind of lift us up. And Madonna did that. I remember being at the Royal Vauxhall Tavern and seeing, you know, this juddery old screen would come down and they'd show that video of her performance at, I don't know, the VMAs or whatever, where she did the Louis... Marie Antoinette Vogue.
Oh, yeah, yeah. Which was... you know, tremendous, wasn't it?
Tremendous.
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
0:00–0:02
2
What insights does Graham share about his easiest interview with Madonna?
0:02–0:21
3
How does Graham feel about being considered a friend by Madonna?
0:21–1:07
4
Is it normal to develop feelings for your therapist?
1:07–1:42
5
What advice does Graham give on dealing with inappropriate feelings in therapy?
1:42–2:14
6
What are the common experiences of women facing mansplaining?
2:14–2:38
7
How can one effectively handle mansplaining situations?
2:38–2:57
8
What humorous strategies can be used to cope with annoying customer behavior?
2:57–36:49