Send us a textCover art by Donald "C-Note" Hooker: top image "Cell Time" (2019); bottom image "During the Flood" (2017)To learn more, please visit the sites for Donald "C-Note" Hooker and Art for Redemption.Show Notes:0:00 Anna D. Smith discussing C-Note Hooker’s artwork entitled “During the Flood”1:20 Smith’s background3:15 Smith’s work as a court advocate4:00 Smith’s adoption of son, Emmanuel 4:45 Smith’s contact with artist Donald “C-Note” Hooker5:55 Art for Redemption coffee book6:10 C-Note’s work related to social justice6:45 “During the Flood” aka “Count Time”7:50 California prison built on flood-prone areas 8:45 compensation for incarcerated workers11:00 Smith’s efforts to sell C-Note’s artwork11:45 billboards “Incarceration Nation” and “Look Up Hope and Beauty”12:20 “Colored Girl Warhol”13:20 Billboard events to raise awareness about issues for the individuals in the system, the homeless, parolees 14:10 “Incarceration Nation”14:50 misconceptions about individuals in the system16:45 defining justice and amendment of the 13th Amendment 19:00 power of imagery to impact social awareness about issues with the system20:30 legacy and need for connections21:00 Martin Luther King’s inspiration to love one’s enemies24:00 incarcerated individual who entered contest about rehabilitation 27:00 view of justice for Smith began with her father’s work as teacher of economics to those incarcerated30:30 Vanity Fair article 32:00 importance of the arts in the system Please share your comments and/or questions at [email protected] by Toulme.To hear more episodes, please visit Warfare of Art and Law podcast's website.To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at [email protected]. Thanks so much for listening!© Stephanie Drawdy [2025]

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