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#3021 RHOC S19E13 Part 1: Seriously Funny

03 Oct 2025

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Chapter 1: What happens at the spring fling party on RHOC?

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4.146 - 28.215 Ben Mandelker

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Hello and welcome to Watch What Crappens, a podcast about all that crap on Bravo we'd love to talk about. I'm Ben Mandelker and here with me today, as always, is someone who's not just a co-host, someone who's not just a wonderful man, but someone who is a comedic actor, Ronnie Karam. How are you? You actually are a comedic actor.

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52.693 - 58.742 Ronnie Karam

Hello! I've actually gone through the groundlings. I had to audition for it.

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You actually are. You are a Groundlings alum and you are a comedic actor.

67.421 - 86.778 Ronnie Karam

I don't think I'm a Groundlings alum because I think you have to be in the Groundlings to be a Groundlings. I just went through the school. I didn't get accepted. Oh, that just counts as being in it? No, I went through all the classes. I went through all the levels. At the end, you do a show and then they all judge you. They're like, you're too fat for this. And then I'm like, okay, bye.

87.359 - 96.643 Ronnie Karam

But no, they didn't say I was too fat for it, obviously. But I didn't make it. So not bitter at all. Every time I pass there, I spit on them. I spit on them and all their children.

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no just i want to go take classes at the groundlings i think i said this before when heather heather said she was taking classes at the groundlings it's like it sort of has like awoken a thing of like maybe i should take classes at the groundlings i mean if heather dubrow could do it i've always wanted to take improv classes i haven't i worry that my my time has passed but but then again heather dubrow she's she's throwing herself right in the ring so maybe i could be this is what i tell myself every day ben you're never gonna be this young again

125.615 - 133.026 Ronnie Karam

This is the youngest you're ever going to be. Okay. So do whatever the fuck you want to. That's what I say. I could be, you know, do it. It's fun.

Chapter 2: Why do the women not trust Tamra?

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On Monday, everyone, do not forget that we have... Wait, is this Monday? It's crappy hour. Yes. We have crappy hour, so get yourself excited about that. And on Patreon, you can join us, patreon.com slash watch where crap ends, weekly bonus episodes. This week on our bonus episode, we did something very fun, very, very, very fun, which is that we watched With Love, Megan, and we tore it apart.

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That was a delight. So go join us for that. And then we also have our video component, which you can get on Patreon at patreon.com slash watch what crap happens. And then after a week, those videos go onto YouTube and you should follow us on YouTube, by the way, because YouTube is fun.

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213.972 - 229.194 Ronnie Karam

So that is the news. Also, Real Housewives of Potomac is returning this week. So don't forget to watch it because that will be back on Monday rotation here at Watch What Crap Ends, which means Miami is moving up. So you should be getting a Miami recap even earlier this week. So check that out.

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And thanks for being here. Thanks for being here, everyone. Okay, so now let's get into this Orange County episode. Not so funfetti. I was actually cracking up this episode. I was cracking up. Great episode. They were so ridiculous. Also... Great one. I mean, Tamara was doing the pure Tamara victim thing. Emily was... Emily was...

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Emily and Gina were actually being like entertaining to me for the most part, as much as they can be. And what I loved, you know, I've really grown to love Mr. Bro. You know, there was a time when I really hated Heather Dubrow and I really, when was that? You've always loved Heather Dubrow.

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No, there were times like, you know, many seasons ago, I didn't, there were times I'd be like, Oh, she's the worst. But I've, it's more like I've, I was, I've gone from like amused to like, I'm starting to teeter into love. And, um, I just, I just love, um,

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when she gets mad at someone because really like really no one tears into someone the way heather dubrow does i'm not saying she tears into someone better or worse i'm just saying her style of it is so heather dubrow because when she tears into you it is terrifying there's no one who i actually consider is terrifying there are people i'm like oh don't mess with them like don't mess with kenya don't mess with porsche don't mess with

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Dorinda, but there's something about the way Heather does it, the way she curls her lips inwards and she gets her claw hands out and she starts poking them.

309.823 - 314.213 Ronnie Karam

She pushes her chin out like she gives herself severe underbite.

Chapter 3: How does Heather defend her comedic reputation?

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They didn't even take the cakes. Well, maybe I should name this episode, That Takes the Cake. I think you should name it.

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359.867 - 364.753 Heather Dubrow

Some bitch left my cake out in the rain.

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I was going to call it seriously funny. Um, so we start off, we, Orange County is doing this new thing. Well, not new thing, but they just do this every once in a while, but they've been doing a lot this season where instead of seeing a previously on, it has to be like narrated to us through some sort of like Kiki moment.

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Um, although on this show, you, there are literally a Kiki moment with Kiki. But it's Gretchen. Gretchen just came from the Megyn Kelly salon and she's sitting down for some lunch with Jen. And they have some small talk about putting a purse on the floor. Jen was like, I was gonna put my purse on the floor, but Heather told me that's why I'm broke.

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Um, so Jen is asking Gretchen how she feels and we sort of get like interspersed with that to somebody.

415.014 - 425.858 Ronnie Karam

I mean, can we just pause on that for a moment? Jen is going to put her purse on the floor and Heather says, that's why you're broke. I mean, what a monster.

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Because your purse keeps getting stolen. Who says that?

432.748 - 451.035 Ronnie Karam

That's why you're broke. You don't appreciate what you have. You leave it on the floor. God senses it. And he refuses to send you more purses. That's why the only thing God sends you is a man in bad spray hair with, you know, clothes that he spray paints.

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Yeah, pretty much. So now that we see like flashbacks to that, to that fight and Jen's like, well, I'm so bummed that you're not going to Tamara's party. Does it bother you?

Chapter 4: What comedic experiences do the hosts share?

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So now Tamara's setting up.

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533.924 - 541.384 Ronnie Karam

I promised myself for 2025 I would not be blaming Alfredo for stealing anything else.

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So, no, Tamara's setting up her spring fling party, and she's, like, hanging wisteria from, like, power lines or something like that in her backyard. And then Eddie shows up with, like, all the charisma of a wilted wisteria. Like, I mean, actually, he is a wisteria. He's just a thing that dangles from a line that sort of gets in your hair. Like, oh, okay, thanks. The useless wisteria.

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566.052 - 582.019 Ronnie Karam

i thought it was cute though because um this show was based on desperate housewives and so i like that all these years later they're doing the wisteria lane you know wink and a nod yeah i think it's nice whoever knew that real housewives would outlast desperate housewives

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Yeah. Eddie, in case you didn't know, he's from Orange County. He's comes in with his full on motorcycle get up. He's got like American flags all over him. He's like, hey, honey. So she's saying how she needs his help getting ready for the party. And he's going to wash down some tables and stuff. And he's asking who's coming. And she says, you know, who's coming? And he asked if Shannon's coming.

605.039 - 609.964 Heather Dubrow

And she's like, you know, I mean, I'm fine with Shannon. I wouldn't say great.

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And then Tamara tells us that Shannon had texted her about Teddy and offered a treatment program for cancer, which I think this is Shannon's love language. She loves giving cancer recommendations.

624.137 - 648.928 Ronnie Karam

Yeah, Shannon should have, Shannon should like write a line of birthday cards that just say, happy birthday. I can help you with your cancer. I know the best people. I had coffee in my mouth. She really does. She was really good at that. Remember, that was her thing with Brooks. I helped you with your cancer. You didn't even have it. You didn't even have it.

649.809 - 654.313 Heather Dubrow

I introduced you to people at Memorial Sloan Catering or whatever it is.

Chapter 5: What is the significance of the Groundlings in this episode?

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Can I bring it into the clinic? Okay, great. I can do it tomorrow morning.

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695.586 - 707.261 Ronnie Karam

Hello, Mayo Clinic. I'm having a problem with my dried tuna. I was hoping that you could see us sometime today. Oh, you're prescribing Mayo. Okay, well, I would still like it to see a doctor.

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707.461 - 713.469 Heather Dubrow

Thank you. I am having some trouble with your online portal, and I was wondering if I could just bring my mayo in.

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I'm concerned because I'm wondering, is there a way to make chicken salad with an alternate, like yogurt? No, you recommend mayo? Okay. All right, no, that's not exactly what I was hoping for. Is there a specialist I could speak to about that?

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725.647 - 733.679 Ronnie Karam

Hello, Mayo Clinic. It is the end of April, and I'm not really sure what the date is. Is it mayo?

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Mayo?

734.38 - 741.871 Ronnie Karam

No? Okay. Wrong number. I'm so sorry. Oh, God, I just broke my tooth on a piece of dried peanut. Do you know who I should call?

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Hi, this is Shannon Bedore again. I'm just calling to see if Dr. Wasabi is in. I have a question. So I've been trying to find Hellman's on the West Coast, but all I can find is Best Foods. Should I be concerned? Is Hellman's, have they been taken off the market? Do they have poisoning? Oh, they're the same. Oh. Well, thank God there's a clinic for this.

763.361 - 764.202 Heather Dubrow

Thank you so much.

Chapter 6: How does Tamra's behavior impact the group dynamics?

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I really don't. In fact, I think I like it. I was never a mayo person. And somewhere along the line over the past 20 years, I became a mayo person.

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805.238 - 823.753 Ronnie Karam

and i'm okay with that i just i mean my sushi i just don't want it my sushi you know i just don't want it there i think it's all about having the proper proportion you don't want it to be like overly mayo but i like a little bit of little lubricant in there you know mayo mouth you have been prescribed and it has been delivered

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823.733 - 844.763 Tamra Judge

So, Tamara's like, yeah, she's trying to help me with some cancer stuff for today. So, you know, she forwarded over some treatment programs. And I thought, well, maybe that's her other branch. So I thanked her. And so, look, I'm still trying. I'm still trying so hard. Remember last week when I suggested that she's probably an alcoholic because that's an alcoholic.

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847.088 - 848.65 Heather Dubrow

That was a good, that was a good one.

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This is classic Tamara framing herself as the victim to someone who's totally unreasonable and not willing to listen to her, try to be like a kind, good person. And like you terrorized Shannon at her lowest moment of her life. You ridiculed her, you screamed at her, you accused her of being an alcoholic.

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And while those things may be true, you still did it at the worst time when you're supposed to be her friend. And then she was like,

876.991 - 881.358 Tamra Judge

Well, I'm trying. It's just like, huh, I guess I'll try and try again.

881.378 - 904.82 Ronnie Karam

I've been a good person. It's so hard. But speaking of Tamara reframing things, this is so good. She goes, oh, my God, Eddie, my back hurts. And he asks her why. And she goes, yeah, because I jumped over Gina. It was just a prank. It was just a prank. No, you thought you were going to get attacked. So you literally jumped behind Gina and pushed her in front of you. It's not a prank.

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No, she's saying that the carjacking was a human shield. She's saying the carjacking was a prank.

Chapter 7: What are the highlights of the conflict between Tamra and Heather?

948.618 - 954.464 Ronnie Karam

So Eddie's like, that's fucking stupid. Yeah, it wasn't cool. I'm going to choke on my own coffee.

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954.825 - 958.669 Heather Dubrow

But did I suspect anything else from this bitch?

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Oh, please. It was fine. It was a little prank.

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961.792 - 972.034 Tamra Judge

So Tamara's like, I mean, this girl cannot stop. So Gretchen's not allowed in my house because what if she carjacks my house? She can suck a dick, but I don't even think a dick would suck her.

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973.263 - 984.381 Ronnie Karam

I mean, that prank wasn't cool, but still. So Tamara's like, she's saying she hadn't heard about the sleepover, but Emily was like, crept and got drunk and proceeded to tell a story about me.

984.982 - 994.157 Heather Dubrow

That this pop singer, me and Jeff were fucking. So we screamed and we yelled. And 12 years later, that's what we're still fighting about? Me fucking Hanson?

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By the way, I just want to point out in terms of not cool pranks, getting someone drunk and seeing what they're going to do. That's not a great prank either. Just want to, as long as we're talking about pranks.

1004.124 - 1009.473 Ronnie Karam

Too many years of pranks to relitigate, honestly, on this show. It's just too much.

1011.336 - 1015.183 Heather Dubrow

So she's like, yeah, that was 12 years ago. Fuck you. She came at it one time.

Chapter 8: How does the episode conclude with the tattoo storyline?

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We want to hear the song, which by the way, I don't think is a terribly offensive thing. If someone says Tamara sang a song, I'd be like, I need to hear it. Let's hear what Tamara says.

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1141.392 - 1161.017 Ronnie Karam

So we can, if someone came to me and said, I have a song of Ben singing and fucking, you know, Hanson, I'd be like, I want to hear it. Listen, I would be upset if you didn't listen. Yeah, I'd be like, I want to hear it right now. Okay, I'll pay you. Yeah, please. Of course, that's what friends do. It's called support.

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Tamara's now just trying to act like, oh, my God, this was such a flagrant example of disloyalty or whatever. It's like, no. She's trying it. She wanted to hear it.

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1172.848 - 1198.31 Ronnie Karam

She's trying it. So she storms out, but of course is just like hanging out in the parking lot waiting for people to come kiss her ass. And so Heather comes out. And Tamara's like, listen to me. I said, this is gross. I don't want to hear about that. I mean, I just said it blanket all night long because I was talking to Gretchen and Emily, which we could have been talking about anything.

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1198.33 - 1200.032 Ronnie Karam

And my reaction would have been the same.

1200.012 - 1220.991 Tamra Judge

but still i stood up for you well i don't like what happened afterwards because heather didn't even call me and i'm sorry are you saying are you okay are you okay that you stormed out of the event because you heard that there was a rumor about me sleeping with a boy bander she didn't even call me about that how many times the camera call heather

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There was a whole season. There was that season where, remember the stupid thing where Heather was actually the brunt of everything, where Tamra said that Heather said something at BravoCon, said that everyone was dumb or something like that. And then she was like, I can't believe you would say that. And Heather was crying in Mexico and was basically on the verge of leaving.

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Did Tamra call Heather after that? I'd like to know.

1247.414 - 1268.066 Ronnie Karam

Oh my gosh, you're really digging back today. Remember that? Yeah, I do. I do. But, you know, it's just like another brick in the Tamra's a hypocrite castle. She's like, yeah, I don't know what happened after because she didn't call me. Nobody called me. Nobody liked me. So why is it her fault, Tamra? Because Heather just, she doesn't take sides.

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