Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
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Hi, everyone. Welcome back. This is part two of a two-part recap. If you're wondering where part one was, well, go check in the feed and be sure to subscribe. So that way you always get your episodes. But enough of that. Let's get right back into the episode. And now we put a pin in all that because now Mary and Bronwyn go to lunch. Actually, it's not a pin because it's Mary and Bronwyn.
And Mary, they sit down and Mary's like, you were wise beyond your years for not traveling back with us. She's like, was it awful? Pure chaos. She's like, couldn't have been that bad. She's like, from the time we boarded, the time we sat in our seats, Meredith started going in on Brittany.
And you know, I have my own things with Brittany, but I feel like, you know, at the end of the day, right is right and wrong is wrong. I mean, let's also not overlook this, Ronnie. Mary hates Brittany, hates her, thinks she's a waste of space. She doesn't like talking to this person. And even she is taking up for Brittany in this situation. So that's, that's the bad sign.
Yeah. I mean, look, I don't doubt that Lisa and Meredith were monsters on that plane. I'm just, the thing I doubt is the level at which Heather and Whitney take it to. You know, they just take it to this level. It's like she was screaming at the top of her lungs for four hours straight and na, na, na, na, na.
And that's where I'm like, but you can tell just how Meredith is reacting that she's guilty, you know, of some of this. I guess I was talking shit. I guess my thing is I just don't understand Meredith doing this on the boat and everybody being fine with it.
And Heather running around screaming bitch at somebody and telling her she's guilty of all of this stuff that this lady's claiming she didn't do to the point where she's sobbing and Heather's still going at her constantly. I don't understand how all of this stuff is so different. Like they're all acting like they're on some moral high ground, but it's different because it's on a plane.
It's different because it's off camera. Because on the boat, you're making content. You're making a TV show. But on the plane, it's like, okay, cameras are down. You know, like union rules. I guess. Okay. That makes sense.
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Chapter 2: What happens during the lunch between Mary and Bronwyn?
You can't work this many hours. I actually genuinely think it's kind of like, okay, like when people are being ridiculous on the boat, I think there's some element of... because we're on camera, this is our job. Our job is to be like brutally honest right now.
And we're going to be confrontational, but it's all in purpose of providing a story for everyone, even though it's our truth, but it's also like, we're, we're going to communicate in a way that's different than our normal communications. But now it's like, we're re we're, we're recovering. And I think also,
I think sitting behind someone on a plane and just talking shit about them for like four hours, there's a level of nastiness to that that is different than kind of like a confrontation at a table, you know, where you can say, well, I was mad, but like...
really like like the word bullying gets thrown around a lot and almost too much not almost definitely too much on bravo but this situation it does harken back to some classic you know middle school bullying and i think people are reacting to that
Yeah. Agreed. So then we go to Whitney and Justin golfing and Whitney is bending over, touching her toes in her little skirt, trying to get attention from Justin. And again, it doesn't work, which I felt kind of bad. So I was glad for that scene later where Whitney's going to go get some from somebody else because she's really trying with this guy and he's just like, whatever.
So then she starts telling him about what happened on the plane. And she's like, that was the most unhinged, vulgar thing. Meredith lost her frickin' mind.
And when she started going for Britney, and then Lisa was just in her ear pouring fuel on the fire. And then she'd look over to Britney and be like, you fucked up. You owe Meredith an apology. You fucked up. Yeah. And then she'd look at me and be like, Whitney, give us your phone. Show us the proof. The TikTok doesn't exist. You guys are liars.
Now I do believe that there is a world where the tone, Lisa may have said those words, but the tone could have been slightly different. Not to be a Lisa apologist, but this is more like, I take everything that Whitney says with a grain of salt. I can imagine Lisa being like, Brittany, you really fucked up on this one. You need to apologize. Yeah.
You really need to, as opposed to, yeah, we're fucked up. Like it could have, it could have, it could have gone both ways. And like, Whitney is really good at misinterpreting things. So in this case, I'm like, okay, I'm taking this one with a grain of salt. But that being said, I do think that Meredith and Lisa were, were again being dicks.
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Chapter 3: How does the plane incident impact Meredith and Brittany's relationship?
And she's like, oh my God, that was like so crazy. Yeah, like Meredith lost her mind. You know, and she's my friend. Like I love her so much, but you know, she was like crying. She was so hurt. And she didn't talk to Brittany. She was just saying all this mean stuff about Brittany, like to me, but she was being so loud. And he's like, but you weren't saying anything, right?
And she goes, no, I would never. I would never. No, I would never. But, you know, like, I don't know. Like, I've never seen Meredith that upset, you know, and I've seen Meredith mad, but I've never seen her that upset. OK, so now Lisa. So now I'm starting to change because Lisa's we've seen how Meredith has gone off on Lisa and it's been ugly.
And Lisa kind of deserved it, too, because that was after the, you know, bathroom venting thing caught on Mike situation. Meredith's dad had died. Yes. And Meredith lost her shit on Lisa. So now this is where I start to change. And I'm like, oh, well, if Lisa is saying that Meredith was that crazy, then now I don't know. Now I'm stumped. Now I'm like, shit, Meredith did it.
Meredith is 100% guilty.
Or Lisa's trying to create distance because she knows it was a bad look and she's trying to be like, yeah, I'll throw her under the bus. That way I don't get any dirt on me. But I agree with you. I keep on sort of playing out all the different scenarios. I like to voice out all the perspectives because I know there'll be people who would say, but what about this?
And so I'm sort of trying to like hold room for all the perspectives. But I do think ultimately, Yeah, I think like Meredith was at the very least, Meredith was talking shit about Britney right there, right behind her back where Britney could clearly hear it. And it was not a nice thing to do. It was not.
I mean, see, that changes my opinion, though, because if she was just talking to Lisa, even if she was doing it loud enough that Britney could hear and she's like, fuck this girl. I don't mind that because Britney just brought on the camera that her husband's cheating on her. So to me, it's like, well, you know, you bought the ticket. Sit for the show. That's how I feel about that.
But if Meredith was screaming and yelling and for four hours straight and wouldn't stop and was shaking her chair and throwing wine on her and pulling her hair and Lisa was behind her abusing her as well. Yeah, that's totally different. That's bullying. So it's so hard to have an opinion because I don't know that I believe that it was that extreme.
So I can't say they were bullies because Brittany kind of deserved it. But then on the other hand, you know, if they were that extreme, then they are bullies. So it's just hard to say. And I'm flip flopping, not because I don't have an opinion, but because we don't have all the information.
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Chapter 4: What shocking stories do Bronwyn and Whitney share about their marriages?
And I think Lisa said, you fucked up. You fucked up. Show us the video. Give us the video. And she goes, oh, so you heard her say that? And she's like, yes, I heard her. And that's when I think I'd woken up and I said, what are you doing? Leave her alone. And then they both came at me full force. And Brittany doesn't say like, well, thanks for saying something.
So she says, I just felt like really vulnerable and. I think they were just trying to make me feel really small, and I'm just really disappointed in myself that eventually I started crying, and I just didn't want them to know that they broke me. She says that the flight attendant kept on checking on her, and they're like, are you okay, Miss Bateman? Is there anything we can get you, Miss Bateman?
Are you okay, Miss Bateman? Can I get your autograph? I loved you in Miss Saigon, Miss Bateman. Yes, I saw the...
off off off broadway uh osaka version and you were wonderful in it miss bateman and i'm just like yeah i'm like they gave me water and i don't know i just can't believe lisa would turn on me like that i was just i've been so good to her yeah i've just been so good for her i've defended her when she when she wasn't even there like fiercely and um she says you know she wasn't only egging it on she was part of it and she was kicking my seat and she told me to my face that i deserved it
And she says, you know, she's just as culpable as Meredith. And I don't know. I just keep saying that I'm the unsinkable rubber ducky, but I feel really broken. And Heather's like, you deserve support.
You deserve dignity. You deserve rhymes with Mr. Hood. Sisterhood! We are women!
And so she starts doing the whole thing. And she's like, when there is a line between right and wrong, I choose the side of right. And I'm on your side. It's like, OK, bad weather. You're ganging up on people and bullying them is totally up your two's alley as well. But she's like, I'm here for you. We are going to get them together. So the lines are drawn in the sand.
Yeah, she literally is like, if there was any like back and forth, there's any sort of like on the fence, don't worry, I am firmly on your team. And this is also just as great because now I can use this against Lisa. So now we go to Bronwyn and Whitney.
So this is, they go to a place called Le Depot, which I thought was where we had performed at the Depot, because there was like a fancy restaurant next to the Depot. So I was like, oh my God, they're at the restaurant next to where we went. And then it wasn't at all. Because of course I looked it up and it was in Park City. I was like, oh, womp, womp.
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Chapter 5: What are the differing perspectives on Meredith's behavior on the plane?
Someone sitting there looking at pictures of hot women on their phone.
I mean, well, but I sound like he was corresponding. And so corresponding. And so either way, it's this is this is fuel for the fire.
I don't have an affair anymore. I mean, I swear to God, people are just everywhere with their fucking cameras. Leave me alone. Look at whatever dirty pictures I want. I paid for this seat. It's time for a commercial. It's time for a Krappens commercial.
Do you believe this random person? Yeah. Yeah, I do. Because they knew where Todd was sitting on the plane. And they said they were sitting behind him. And they knew what flight he was on. And when he came home, I was like, what's this shit on Twitter? And he goes, what's Twitter? And I said, it's actually a social media thing. And he goes, what's social media?
I said, you know, it's that thing that's on your phone. He said, my Palm Pilot doesn't have... anything on its phone except for a calendar. And he says, isn't that great? And I said, no, Todd, we have to talk about the affair. And he goes, what affair? Because it's not on my calendar, which is on my Palm Pilot. Do you see that my Palm Pilot has a calendar? Isn't that amazing technology?
I said, it's very nice, Todd, but I'm trying to talk about something important. He goes, what's more important than the fact that we finally got a calendar on a phone? This went on for hours.
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
And then he goes, well, ask your friends because they love to dabble in this kind of gossip and nonsense. He said that. And it's probably them he said. And I was like, no, no, no, no. Head shaking now. Head shaking now. Absolutely not, Todd. Absolutely not.
She's like, gotcha. You're going to make me feel bad about getting into a fight with Lisa Barlow as Bridget, but then you're the one who is sort of having an affair. So guess what? I get to be the winner.
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Chapter 6: What does Mary reveal about her feelings towards Brittany?
And she's like, well, you need suntan lotion. You know, that is why I get so many compliments on my skin. Do you think I have nice skin? Okay, well, for an older lady, I do. So sunblock, and don't forget to reply a midday. Why? Hello? Would you look at me? And she's like, leave me alone, mother. Do you like my sweater? Did you notice it? She's like... Yes, I noticed it.
How could I not fucking notice it? It's a gigantic Greek flag, mother. I see it.
I know. By the way, I mean, let's also applaud Angie for some brutal honesty because we just had a scene where Whitney and Brahman were saying some truths that we never thought we'd hear on the show. And now here comes Angie. She said the words older woman on a housewife show. I don't think you're even allowed to say that. Like what? What are you talking about? Older woman? I know.
I'm surprised it wasn't bleeped out. I know. So Angie's like, do you see the Greek flag? I don't like it, mother. Well, I was thinking a lot of sports are Olympic sports and your sport is one of the most beautiful sports in the world. Imagine if you continue on, you could actually compete in the Olympics for Greece.
What do you think of that?
Angie just putting Elektra on an Olympic track out of nowhere for Greece. For Greece.
And she's like, why? I'm American. Why would I be on an Olympic team for Greece? Like, that doesn't even make sense. And she's like, but your grandfather is from Greece. And, you know, isn't that great? She's like, I mean, I don't really care. And she goes, well, Elektra's like, yeah, like, Papa didn't immigrate.
for me to represent greece and she's like well i'm sure that wasn't on his radar at 17 being a greek in is in your roots and that's when your ancestors are from and i can relate because when i was 13 years old i thought about being greek or being american and none of this stuff even crossed my mind but the fact is you are greek i'm aware i am greek i'm aware we are greek i know mother stop saying greek
I have to say, when she said Papou didn't immigrate for me to represent Greece, I was like, damn, that was cold. That was so cold. Papou was like, I literally did that. He's like, when I was 13 and I moved to America, I thought someday I'd have a granddaughter who'll do equestrian and represent Greece in the Olympics.
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Chapter 7: How do the housewives react to the accusations of bullying?
Does she even know about Pegasus? We literally have flying horses in Greece. I mean, come on.
One time I said, knock, knock. And she said, who's there? And I said, Olympia Dukakis. And she said, Olympia Dukakis who? And it broke my heart.
It broke my heart like a plate on so many floors. So Electra's like, you're forcing the Greekness upon me. And also America, quite frankly. And like, you won't let me go anywhere with that. You don't let me wear anything but Greek, okay? And you don't let me wear anything. Everything I have to wear is Greek. And you have Greek mugs. You have Greek sweaters. You make me take Greek lessons.
You make me go to freaking Greek church. I have to go to Greek Starbucks. I literally have to travel to Athens to get Starbucks once a year.
Um, she's like, but guess what? I had to do those things too. And do you know, at your age, I didn't want to go to Sunday school. I didn't want to go to Greek dance. I didn't want to have to go to Greek school, but now I'm glad I did it. So do you know how many people wish they were Greek? They do. And I spent my whole life saying my dad was an immigrant.
And I didn't say my mom was an immigrant because I didn't go to my mom's village. And so she's talking about how she wasn't really, you know, knowledgeable about her mom's history. And she doesn't want Alexa, Alexa, Alexa to feel the same way. And she's like, OK, I got your point. It's not like I like dad's side more. It's just like I do what they do.
It's like, you know, I'm dad and you're just like over there. You know, it's not bad. I mean, you can be over there, but like, I'm over here. Stay over there. She's like, oh, yeah. And you just see Angie's heartbreaking.
And I saw a Reddit post and I didn't read the whole thing, but it said, I just realized that Angie named her daughter after a Greek character that hated and then murdered her own mother. It is kind of funny.
Elektra is a really cool choice. What about like... Persephone. Well, Persephone gets dragged down to hell. But, you know, Hera, Athena, really... Something. Neovardolos, anything. But Angie... Mia? This is my daughter, Neovardolos.
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Chapter 8: What is the significance of the apology lunch planned by Mary?
You literally are accusing her of murder. That's terrible, Lisa. Yeah.
No, I'm not saying she did that. You know, like the only murder here is happening to that beignet that you're murdering right now, okay? You know what, I don't appreciate that. Yeah, and she felt wine being splashed on her, Lisa, and her chair being moved and felt hassled and bullied by you guys for the entire fucking flight.
No, we did not hassle and bully her. Don't put me in that statement, Heather.
Yeah, but I'm telling you how Britney felt. And that's all that matters, not facts, feelings. That's what matters in a court of law. So why would she think her chair was being jostled?
Meredith said when she got up to go to the bathroom, she grabbed her chair as leverage to like get herself up. It was just leverage.
Spilling wine. Spilling wine on her.
Leverage. Leverage. It was leverage. And the wine went on me. It went on me, by the way. She was like talking with her huns and like facing me and like this and like that. And her hun was like this and that. And like the wine was on me. If anything, like I think we all saw the way that she can control water in the air. And she forced all of it, all the liquid. It went on to me. I was the victim.
I got hurt.
Well, it went on, it went on Britney. She goes, no, it didn't. It didn't get on Britney. No, it didn't.
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