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#3085 RHOP S10E08 Part One: And Still I Lie(s)

24 Nov 2025

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Chapter 1: What are the highlights of the Thanksgiving week preparations?

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4.147 - 28.08 Ben Mandelker

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29.056 - 49.347 Ronnie Karam

Hello and welcome to What's What's Crappin's. I'm Ronnie and that's Ben over there. Hello, Ben. Hi, Ronnie. How are you? I'm so good, guys. It is Thanksgiving week here in the United States. So we're just getting ready for... I mean, just a weekend. It's really not that long of a weekend, but a semi-long weekend.

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Chapter 2: How does the discussion shift to the Real Housewives of Potomac recap?

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So we're excited about that. This Real Housewives of Potomac Day. It's also Amazon Live Day. 4 p.m. will be on Amazon Live, okay? 4 p.m. Pacific time. Find our link in bio over at our Instagram. It's going to be so fun. We're going to talk about holiday cookies, holiday cooking, and house lighting, home lighting in my house.

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I'm going to give some recommendations on some of the tools that I use for Thanksgiving cooking. So, listen in. What do you think about that? And then this week, our schedule is pretty similar to normal. We have our final Dwell Hello this week on Wondery+. That will be the final, maybe of the season, maybe ever. We don't know. But we're going to be doing that later this week.

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We've also got a bonus episode this week. Maybe a trailer trash of something coming up. Haven't decided. And we will be skipping Southern charm this week. That's the only recap we're skipping because I'm not doing a recap on Thanksgiving. Okay. Yep. That is not how people want to celebrate Turkey. Okay. Those turkeys have already basted themselves, but we will talk about it the following week.

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Otherwise our schedule is the same. So how was your weekend, Ben? Weekend was great. I went to Dallas, Texas, as many of you know, because I recorded the Orange County reunion from Dallas, where I went to a board game convention. And I think, as I mentioned on Friday, a very different scene from BravoCon in virtually any way you could ever imagine. But I had fun. It was fun stepping into nerddom.

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And now I am back and I am ready to step into, into, into, into Bravo and also Thanksgiving madness. I'm going to, when we're done recording today, I'm going to hop on my laptop and I'm going, I'm trying to get this out as quickly as possible. I'm trying to get out a, another NBD fancy newsletter.

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That's going to be, I'm, I'm calling it quote unquote, low lift Thanksgiving, like things you can make that are pretty simple, but will look pretty cool for Thanksgiving. Um, I don't know if I'll be able to succeed on that front. It's like how low lift can stuffing be? But I'm going to try. So keep an eye out for that. But that being said, it's been wonderful. Low lift.

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It's a low lift Thanksgiving. But I did love emerging from nerddom and coming back into Bravo via...

Chapter 3: What controversies arise regarding Cookie's role in the drama?

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the great ambassador that is Real Housewives of Potomac, because this episode cracked me up. Oh, my God. Especially the quarrel at the end. Cookie. Cookie.

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Cookie. Cookie.

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Cookie came in and really cookied it up. I mean, wow. Geez. I love that. Also, like the controversy around Cookie, like is she a reliable narrator or not? Like, should we believe Cookie? We find out that Cookie has been the Wizard of Oz, you know, like the hand moving a lot of the show. At least that's kind of what has been insinuated here.

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And then we see Cookie and they're just like, they're holding Cookie for good. Wicked Cookie for good. They're holding Cookie back. Cookie's, you know, waving those nails at people like, oh, you want a piece of me? And yeah, they're holding Cookie back. And damn, Cookie, who knew? I know.

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And it's so funny because in the beginning, very beginning of the episode, as we're about to get to, you know, when when Kierna tries to start some beef between Monique and Stacey and Monique is like, well, I don't care. Chris can date whoever he wants. I was like, oh, wow. Wow. Bravo, really? They really lost out on this storyline.

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They tried to make it a thing and then it just fell flat on its face. Little did we realize it would have a rebirth through Cookie.

Chapter 4: How do the hosts react to Stacey's actions during the episode?

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So I'm incredibly excited to see where this goes. My gosh. I don't know if there's any Color Purple fans out there, but Sophia is what I'm getting from Cookie. If they did a production of that and they cast Cookie as the Oprah Winfrey role, I would die. It would be sold out. You know? I just fucking loved Cookie. I want to see Cookie in everything now. I want Cookie on every show.

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I need Cookie's messy ass on every show. And of course, she's like besties with Karen. You know, Karen is like bestie with the biggest troublemaker on the cast. When they said... The first time I met. OK, let's just go through the episode because there's so much. OK, so we are still at Ashley's Pride Parade.

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You know, I'm so it's so nice to have a show this week after Orange County that actually starts a pride parade, you know. I think we all as a country deserved this, you know? Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Uh, we, we sunset last week on Gretchen's homophobia and then the sun rises on Ashley, Ashley's ash TOP persona. Ashtop. Ashtop, which I, you know, Ashtop. Good for her. Good for her.

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So Kierna's trying to be messy. She's trying to get, she's trying to, Kierna's doing whatever she can this season. She's working on Overdrive and she's trying to target Stacey. Little does she realize that Stacey has become the people's hero, despite her slippery nature with the truth.

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And so Kieran was like, I'm so Monique, like Chris Samuels, your ex-husband, right?

Chapter 5: What insights are shared about relationships and loyalty in the cast?

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And Monique's like, yeah.

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She's like, oh yeah, because like Stacey, you were dating. She was dating Chris, just so you know.

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And again, as we've mentioned about 45 times, it doesn't matter. Stacey was not friends with Monique. So like there's nothing, there's nothing inherently messy about this situation.

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yeah and stacy's like wow okay wow and wendy's like yeah wow and stacy goes oh my god she just met her and so stacy's like oh my god stop i know socially calm down ladies calm down talk about inappropriateness talk about length talk about girth talk about drama Chris Samuels is like, talk about a turkey. Give one to me. Talk about a fee. Talk about a fire. Talk about a foe. Talk about a thumb.

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Talk about a golden goose that's missing.

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um monique's like yeah we've been divorced two years so i would expect that he would date kieran is like oh so you don't mind okay well i guess i didn't know then and when he's like yeah nice try i was messy and um kieran is like i don't care what stacy says she she likes people to think she's not that girl but i know she's that girl isn't it good if you're that girl Isn't that a good thing?

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Like when people say, oh, she's that girl. Isn't that a compliment? It depends. Because if you're like that girl who looks out at the highway every day from her condo, that might not be good for some people. For some people, maybe it is cool. I don't know. Yeah. But like when people say that girl. Yeah. Like if people say like, let's just say somebody had once said not saying they did.

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But let's say somebody said, oh, Ronnie, you're that bitch. I always thought that was a compliment, but now I'm starting to rethink my friendship with somebody. I said, hey, wow, you're that bitch. I thought it was nice, but now Kieran is making me think it's not nice.

Chapter 6: What are the reactions to Monique's experiences in her marriage?

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Well, I think that the, that is context specific. Cause you, you know, like you want to be that bitch. Hey girlfriend, I'm that bitch. I'm that bitch. I'm like, oh, I bought first coffee. But then, but then I guess if you, you could contextually be like, I'm not that girl. You know, it's like a different, I think it's just whatever the, that is here.

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It was like, Stacy is not that, that she's, she's not it. She's that. So Monique's like, well, he's my ex for a reason. I don't want him anymore. So I don't care what he does with his life. As long as he's, as long as she's good with the children. which I'm just so happy to be back. She's so happy to be back. She is like having the best time. She's smiling.

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She does seem actually, she does seem lighter and she seems a bit more, I don't know. It's hard to describe, but she, she's just like, Oh, whatever. She seems actually like a normal person, not a real housewife. So she's like not being, that is weird. She is more normal person now.

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yeah isn't she wearing like a tank top or something like she's like more chill and normal but you know what she was never um i think just her history on the show and the way that she left the show there was like such a dark cloud about that whole thing a dark cloud over it but she was always really chill and fun until she was you know until she wasn't like until she was activated until you put an umbrella in her hand you know

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But the thing is that like, she was also, she was a little bit presentational because she was always pushing her essential oils and stuff like that. And now she's just kind of like, yeah, I'm just hanging out. So Tia is talking and she's like, oh, you guys talk about my bottom. My gosh, Miss Giselle. And Giselle's like, oh, I love it. It wasn't always there.

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And they're just like joking and bantering about that, that booty and stuff like that.

Chapter 7: How does the conversation evolve around the GNA fashion show?

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And, Yeah. Touching it. And, you know, they're having fun time at the gay bar, et cetera. And then. And so Stacy's turned on by Ashtop. She's like, wow, there's something that's just appealing about you.

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And now she's like, okay, okay. Well, I'm going to clear something up, Stacy. So listen, I'm really happy for you to do your business. But I was a little caught off guard with your cannabis launch because, you know, the name being Yoruba, the name being in Yoruba, that felt a little weird to me. as someone who's friends with Nigerians. So I'd like to speak up.

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As someone who likes to start shrine fights amongst Nigerians, I was just like a little offended about your name being in Yoruba.

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I'm still offended that you sold kangaroo meat, Ashtop. I'm offended that you're dressed like Kid Rock right now, Ashtop. personally i'm offended that you're pretending to be a drag queen when you're still like hot girling it up she's like i'm a hot girl but i also have a mustache that's not drag that's not drag kinging come on ashtop So Stacey says that the name of her company is Shio.

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And she was like, what is that? And Wendy was like, she named it a Nigerian name. A Nigerian name. And I was like, are you Nigerian? And she goes, well, I have Nigerian heritage. I sometimes receive an email from a Nigerian prince. So I think that qualifies. I found out that in Nigeria, there's only one person left with my last name.

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And if I just give them my bank account number, I'm going to inherit $50 million. Well, I took a DNA test. Ah, GNA. No, actual DNA. And I've spoken about this with all of you. I love that she took a fucking DNA test. This is so Kelly from Real Housewives of Orange County. I can say whatever I want.

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I'm black.

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I'm black. How are you going to say you're black?

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She's like, I took a 23 in me. I'm 3% black.

Chapter 8: What final thoughts do the hosts share about the episode's events?

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Are people like, oh my God, that's a Nigerian name. I'm getting that. That is the best weed. Yeah, it's not like happy, I guess happy Eddie before the scandal was doing nicely, but it's not like this was taking over American pop culture. So I just, I don't look at Shio or Shior and say, um, wow, what a happy Eddie ripoff.

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Like, it's just not, I don't, I don't know. But also with Angel, I'm just constantly rolling my eyes because we're entering into week 35 of her complaining about the comments about her face that she altered herself on. Oh my God. Jesus Christ. She won't shut up about that. It's so hilarious. And then everything she says, okay, she's like, it's giving money grab. I don't understand that part.

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And then she goes, and Stacey, what about the social justice component of your business? excuse me, can I just sell some weed? Why do I have to sell weed for children with cancer? Like, can I just sell the weed? The social justice component is I make you feel better after a shitty day in this shitty world. How about that?

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Well, what was funny is that she goes, and what about the social justice component of your business? Is there one? Because she just cuts her off and goes, anyway, I just want to say everyone, thank you for coming. I just like, they just were like, I am not talking about some social justice. I'm just selling weed. I'm just, I'm trying to cash in on my window that I'm here. Okay.

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I'm trying to leave a legacy for Arabella. Arabella. Angel's like, By the way, at the board game convention, there was a game called Arabella, and I internally shouted it out in my head. Are you just trying to get your game piece to stand up straight and keep it sash, you know, keep it sash straight? I did think it was weird that the board game went off and started swimming laps in front of me.

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I was like, Arabella, good for you. Okay, guys, we can't let Arabella know that her parents are back together, okay? Keep this secret till the end of the game. that's kind of a fun game. The board game is that there is a child who doesn't realize her parents are divorcing and you have to keep up appearances.

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And if you can make it to the end without a child realizing you won the game, it's dark, but low key kind of, kind of good. Yeah. For kids with divorced parents who might be fucking in a pantry somewhere. There's so many people who are like going through divorces listening right now. They're like, this is not funny what you guys are talking about.

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Why are you mocking our very serious family situation right now? Okay, your parents are going through a divorce. Your game piece is the mom. Your game piece is the dad. So you have to convince the child who's a better parent and who gets custody. It's like it just gets darker and darker. There is actually something real. There is actually something really kind of funny.

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