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Chapter 1: What are the initial reactions to The Valley this season?
Well, hello and welcome to Watch What Crappens!
I'm Ronnie and that's Ben over there. Hello, my little Benuni-toons! Hi, Ronnie. How's it going? Good. What's going on with you? Not much. I'm just excited knowing that the Summer House reunion is taping as we speak. Like, can you even imagine what's happening right now? Wait, let me listen in. Amanda, why would you do that, Amanda? Oh, my God. So nice to hear it's going well.
But today... Softer.
Chapter 2: How do the hosts feel about Schwartz's return to the show?
Could you say that softer? Today is a show that's nothing like Summer House. It's the Valley, except that they all live in houses that are very hot at all times because they live in the Valley. It is the Valley recap, everybody.
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Chapter 3: What are the main issues surrounding postpartum experiences discussed?
Now, let's get into The Valley, Season 3, Episode 4, Mariposa Mama. Ah! Yeah. You know, the sense that I'm getting from a lot of people all around the internet and just people I'm chatting with is that the Valley's not so good this season. People are like, the Valley's not good. Was it me right before this episode? It's you, but it's not just you. This show sucks!
And then I didn't want to say that on the air, but the show kind of sucks. Okay, but go ahead. Thank you for not having me. There have been a lot of people have been like, the Valley is so bad. And people were saying that on the second episode. I remember after the second episode air, people were like, the Valley is so bad this season.
And I was like, well, it's not as good as last season, but it's not.
Chapter 4: How does the cast handle relationship tensions in the episode?
I don't think it's terrible. Here is my two-pronged opinion about it. As I'm watching The Valley, I'm like, this show is still perfectly fine. It doesn't have the urgency, perhaps, of having a terrible villain like Jax on it, but it's still perfectly fine. But the other prong of it is, that being said, we need to start cutting out the short scenes. This is not it. This is not the direction.
It's amazing how the show...
grinds to a halt the moment we have a schwartz centric scene and storyline i mean lala we can sort of get away with you know lala she's like a little bit of an agitator she's trying but the schwartz is so bad this was such a colossal fail to bring this man back onto the show as a full-fledged cast member the fact that we have to stop and we have to watch stupid scenes of him at the belmont which by the way the belmont's not even in the valley
Hello? Hammer and nails, not even in the valley. So they're even sacrificing their own premise just to accommodate Schwartz. It is an abject failure. I don't think the show is bad right now. I think the show is perfectly fine.
Chapter 5: What is the significance of the singles night event?
I do actually find the storylines of the various women going through postpartum to be actually pretty compelling and interesting. But this shit has got to end. No more Schwartz on our TV. Well, my question is, why are you leaving Lala out of that? I mean, Lala's just as bad. She's just as bad.
And this whole episode was Lala and Schwartz trying to make something happen when Schwartz has already been dating somebody else the whole time and they know this. So they're wasting our fucking time with their fake bullshit. And the postpartum stuff, I know that it happens in real life. And it's not that I have no feel feeling about it. You know, like it sucks.
And I'm definitely rooting for both of them against their stupid men. You know, their sex pest men that they're with. But I don't necessarily want to watch TV to watch everybody being depressed. I have that, okay?
Chapter 6: How do the characters navigate their dating lives?
I have enough depression in my own life. That's why I come to Bravo. I don't watch it for this shit. So it's like everybody's depressed. Then they've got Lala and Schwartz on with this fake bullshit. You guys stop wasting my time. Make a show or don't. If you don't have enough to make a show, don't put a show on. Yeah.
Well, it's not that I, I mean, I, of course I, I also don't want to see depressing stuff. However, at least what Kristen and, and Nia are going through, that's like real, that's real stuff they're grappling with real issues with their partners. Their partners are being selfish, but it's fascinating to see it play out and how they're dealing with it. The short stuff is not real.
this is not real or is it interesting? And it's also arguably sadder than the postpartum.
Chapter 7: What are the dynamics between the women during girls' night?
One of the few things that could be is watching Schwartz try to navigate the world. And like, I'm sorry, it's just not good. And the reason why I exempt Lala is because I do believe that like, yeah, Lala, I think also doesn't have anything interesting going on, but you put her in a group scene and if there's some sort of discussion, she is at least going to take a stand about something.
She's going to push someone to take a stand. She's going to sort of
do the reality star thing but schwartz isn't even going to do that schwartz will offer zero and he seems like a nice enough guy at least superficially but it's just not compelling tv and i think it's i just think it was laziness on behalf of the producers in bravo to put him back on the show i think they needed to cultivate new talent
and bring new people onto this into this group and i know that we're probably thinking oh but we want to be authentic and like bring someone in who's an who's an actual friend to all these people like yeah but they have other friends than schwartz bring someone else bring one of the other people who's wearing a fedora in the background you know bring them to the fore but like not schwartz yeah and part of raising kids and moving to a different place is that you meet new people
Anyway, new people naturally come into your life. Bring someone in from carpool lane, you know, or something like that. Yeah, I agree with you on all of that. I just... You know, the sad, the postpartum stuff, like I'm not saying keep it off the show. I think it's just difficult with it being two of the cast members. It's like every storyline is depressing.
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Chapter 8: What conclusions do the hosts draw about the episode's themes?
Like Bravo, there's always one thing, you know, there's always drama. We're watching things that are mixed with drama and fun. So it's just the mix is off, you know, where it's all depressing shit.
and we also don't care i love this show like i love the valley and that's why i care because i feel like this is the same team who fucked up vanderpump rules and you know vanderpump rules was fucked up with forcing lala to go in there and try and like force a tom redemption story and make ariana film with tom and then and then turn on ariana at the end just to make good tv
Her and production are part of the reason that show sucked in the end and why it tanked. So for them to be like, oh, you know what's great? Let's bring back on Lala and Schwartz. We don't need that. You're so tanked. This is a new chance. Let these people have their chance. They had a good show before you guys started fucking with it. This is one of the issues that happens in TV all the time.
I mean, show after show after show, this happens on it, is that when a light, fluffy show, a campy, you know, I don't know, a show that's not taken seriously, whether it's this, whether it's this show, whether it's Gossip Girl, whether it's Revenge, whether it's The O.C.,
if it gets like enough attention and enough clout where people say this is actually a really good show and that like yes it is silly and pulpy but it actually is a really good show too then what happens is producers get in their head they're like oh we've got something serious here we've got to be about something deeper and more real and then they come out with a season that is somber
and is focused on quote unquote, like the real shit. And like, we're going to really connect with people because they, the producers, producers who work on these types of shows, who work on like things that would not be considered prestigious, but are getting prestigious claim want to be taken seriously. And so they follow up with very morose seasons.
And I think we're sort of seeing that here, you know, we're seeing like, like we're, we're seeing like couples fighting. Like you don't understand me. And again, I actually think that's okay. But what we're not getting is the light fun stuff. And we have Janet who's on the sidelines. We don't, we haven't seen Janet in two episodes. And I know people are like, Oh God, I fucking hate Janet.
You cannot sideline your villains. And the reason why she's been on the sidelines is because the cast is The cast, like a lot of them are mad at her and the producers have to be like, guess what? She's on the show and you have to film with her. But instead the producers are saying that's okay.
She's on the sidelines because we're going to focus on what it's like for a new, like a new mom to, uh, to be, you know, struggling with her husband. And I'm like, yeah, that's interesting, but that cannot be the a story here. I'm sorry. It can't because like what it has to be about this group of people and how they're all interacting and there's just no villain. So it's sort of rudderless.
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