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We Can Do Hard Things

Kelly Clarkson: Red Flags, Divorce & Starting Over (Best Of)

20 Apr 2025

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How did Kelly Clarkson find clarity to get divorced?

727.102 - 734.726 Glennon

Yeah, trying to do the right kind of hard, like trying to decide between what's the right hard is like one of the hardest things about parenting.

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735.086 - 744.231 Host

And in general, even like this move, we're all moving to New York. Like there's people that can come and go. In general, it's doing the hard thing. Like it's which hard thing? They're both crappy.

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744.691 - 769.286 Unknown

But I appreciate that about you so much because I think that people, it's like they go the opposite fairy tale. Yep. We used to be taught, if you stay together, happily ever after, and there's your redemption story. And then people went the other way. Like, now I broke it off because that was the right thing for me, and now I have to make that the perfect happy ending. And neither are true.

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769.546 - 776.411 Unknown

They're both extremely messy, and they both have challenges and blessings with them, and you just pick your heart. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

790.225 - 796.711 Glennon

I want to ask you about the song Mine on your new album. It's one of the songs that have been released already.

796.971 - 797.251 Unknown

Yeah.

797.471 - 811.964 Glennon

This song like gutted me because you wrote, I don't know why I stayed as long as I stayed. Yeah. And boy, do I get that. We all do. Boy, do I get that. Why did you stay as long as you stayed?

812.565 - 838.582 Host

But that's hindsight, right? So it's like when you're in it, And I think also our ego, like mine, like my ego, I'm like, I can do this. I can handle so much. My ego is like, I can control my actions. I can control my reactions. I can do this and I can reach this person and I can get through and I can... And it becomes a little bit of your ego that gets in the way.

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