"I Didn't Even Sign A Contract!" Georgia Harrison, Georgia Kousoulou & Chloe Sims Talk TOWIE

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What is Essex culture and how does it influence reality TV?

Paul C. Brunson 0:00
Welcome to We're Talking. In this episode, I look back at the only way is Essex with Georgia Harrison, Georgia Kusulu, and Chloe Sims, exploring how it turned Essex culture into one of Britain's biggest reality TV phenomena.

How was Georgia cast in TOWIE and what was her first experience like?

Paul C. Brunson 0:29
So let's start our ride in one of my favorite places in all of the UK, and that is Essex.
Still can't believe it's one of your favorite places in the UK.
Paul C. Brunson 0:41
I think it's because it was the first place outside of London. Right. So I was working on Celebs Go Dating.

What challenges did Georgia face while filming TOWIE?

Paul C. Brunson 0:49
And I think during my first week, there was a scene that I filmed with Chloe Sims, Towie OG, right, where I had to eat eel pie mash liquor.

How did Georgia manage her newfound fame after joining TOWIE?

I still can't believe you've done that.
Paul C. Brunson 1:03
It was like... I would have just left the eel out.
Everything else is absolutely fine. Apart from that, I think you got conned.
Paul C. Brunson 1:11
All right, fair, fair.

What qualities made Georgia a standout character on TOWIE?

Paul C. Brunson 1:12
All right, but also, outside of the food, what I notice is that there's a distinct culture in Essex, right? So if you think about what Essex culture means to you, especially growing up, how would you define that?

How does Chloe reflect on her experiences during her time on TOWIE?

Paul C. Brunson 1:26
What was the environment like?
It was always very glamorous, very over the top, very flashy. There's a lot of actually really famous people that have come out of Essex, especially if you look at reality TV, a lot of people are from Essex. And I think it's just a lot of big personalities. But when I was in school, that was the era when TOWIE first started. So I would have still been in school when it was first coming to the screens. And before TOWIE, there wasn't that many sort of reality TV shows or anything like that was sort of unheard of.

What financial realities did cast members face while filming TOWIE?

And that was when you could really see like the rise of people becoming famous for literally nothing around the area, driving around in nice cars, filming TV shows and actually being very wealthy off the back of it. And I think that is sort of the environment that I grew up in.
Paul C. Brunson 2:15
Interesting. So did that influence you early on? Did you think, wow, I'd love to get a piece of this?
Oh, definitely. I think a lot of my friends would be on a show like that. But at first, when I was younger, I didn't always believe things were that easily obtainable.

How did TOWIE change the lives of its cast members?

Like, I didn't believe in manifestation or really myself that much. And then my mindset began to change. And that's when I used to think, you know, yeah, I would love to get a piece of this. Do you know what I mean? No, you don't need any qualifications. All you need to do is turn up, have a good time, have a bit of personality and a laugh. And you'll be, like, far more well off than pretty much everyone in your school year.
Paul C. Brunson 2:51
Okay, so you got your wish?
I did, yeah.
Paul C. Brunson 2:54
How did you get that? Because it was at 2014 that you were 19, you make your first appearance on TOWIE. How do you think you actually manifested that? How did you make it happen?
So it's weird to say because it's not like I went up to ITV studios and knocked on the door and I was like, come on, let me on TOWIE. or even try to position myself to be on there, I would literally just manifest that something like that would be really good for me. And I would imagine what my life would be like. I would imagine myself getting papped. I would imagine myself being in front of a camera. I was just thinking, I think I just wanted to have a good time. I don't think I was thinking about anything, any next steps. I was just enjoying each moment. I was young. I was partying a lot. This for me was just, let's see how long it lasts. And let's hope it does.
Paul C. Brunson 3:42
And let's have a good time.
And let's have a good time, yeah.
Paul C. Brunson 3:44
So on TOWIE, did you get paid for TOWIE?
Yeah, we did, but not a lot. So you would only get paid for the days that you filmed. And that was only like two or three days a week.
Paul C. Brunson 3:55
Okay.
And I can't remember how much it was, but it was low then.
Paul C. Brunson 3:58
I'm trying to think roughly how much.
It might have been like 80 quid.
Paul C. Brunson 4:02
Per day? Per day.
Yeah, per day. And you don't film every day, I'm pretty sure. I'm not 100%, but I'm pretty sure it was that.
Paul C. Brunson 4:09
Georgia, you were losing money then.
Well, yeah, because obviously as well, you're then having to keep up with all of these expenses because everyone looks so good and so glamorous.

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