🎙️ In this powerful episode of We're Out of Time, host Richard Taite sits down with rising hip-hop star Suigeneris—also known as Suie—for a raw and inspiring conversation about music, family, staying grounded in the spotlight and why he turned down appearing on Gordon Ramsay's cooking show. Known for his breakout hit "Now" featuring Lil Skies (with over 50 million streams), Suigeneris opens up about his journey from viral success to building a meaningful life beyond fame. With hits like "Star Player," "Feel Good," and "Brown Justin Bieber," he’s more than just a chart-topper—he’s a visionary carving out his own path. 🎤 Suie reveals why family is his foundation, how he avoids the traps of celebrity life, and how his father’s authentic Mexican recipes led to the creation of his food venture, Chef Suie. 💡 This episode is more than just music talk—it’s a blueprint for success through self-belief, purpose, and staying true to your roots. 👇 Listen now and explore more: 🔗 All things Richard Taite, We're Out of Time, and Carrara Treatment Wellness & Spa:https://linktr.ee/richardtaite 📲 Follow Suigeneris:https://www.instagram.com/xosuigeneris 📌 Key moments and highlights from this conversationIntro 00:00Richard Taite, if that's your real name? 02:08Why is Suigeneris on a hiatus from live performances? 05:40What is the origin of Chef Suie? 12:46Turning the Empire State Building Purple & Gold for Kobe? 22:00What is Alexandra's law? 20:56How Suigeneris's family are his business partners? 28:20Why did Suigeneris turn down Gordon Ramsay's cooking show? 30:44Why do those in the underground rap scene fall to substance use? 33:483 cooking TIPS from Suigeneris!
Chapter 1: What is Suigeneris's perspective on family and its importance?
You don't see anyone young cooking the meals I'm cooking. Like traditional Mexican food passed down from generations. Where they're literally promoting people to not cook anymore. It's like damn near soon enough they're gonna lock up the vegetables. But every single day when I get home, I have a home cooked meal with my family and it just smacks reality back into me.
A lot of rappers fall victim to that stuff. because they don't have a family around them. It's also why they move the way they move and do the things they do. That's why I put all my money not into security or not into foreign cars or paying friends to make me look cool or be around me. I put my money into my family, the foundation, the things that keep me me.
I knew the internet would chew me up and spit me out. But you know, my family keeps me sane. I'm just telling you, you could do whatever you put your mind to. Like I was dead as a rapper on tour, dropping all these songs. I had a record deal and all this and that. I did the clothing brand, sold so many that I'm stuck in the house shipping for weeks.
I went and I decided to be a chef and Gordon Ramsay's hitting me up.
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Chapter 2: Why is Suigeneris on a hiatus from live performances?
Hey man, how you doing? How's it going, bro? I'm so happy to be here, bro. Honestly, what you're doing with the podcast. Something different. I haven't seen it before. Your selective guest, the way you rock and let them roll. That's why I had to show up.
Well, I appreciate it, man, because it's for good cause, you know, and this fentanyl thing's killing everybody. So let me ask you a couple of questions.
What's your name, by the way? It's Richard Tate, right? Richard Tate. Richard Tate. Okay, you never know, because you've never seen some people, they come up with these little names. Like, I thought Drake's name was Drake. It's not Drake. What is it? Aubrey Graham. Really? Yeah, so I thought you were pulling a Drake on me, bro. I need to know if it was the real name or not.
If I had a fake name, what would it be, Dylan? What would it be? Daddy? You're John Cena in Joe Rogan's body. Really? Yeah.
Joe Rogan is buff, though. You're buff too, bro. Now I'm just wearing this like tight shirt. Trying a tight shirt to make me look buff. Nah, he's lying. He be in them weights like crazy. No, this guy, this guy went ahead and got into an ice bath. Like Joe Rogan. He like dumped his, and I'm like crying. I'm, I'm feeling, cause you know, I'm an empath, right? So I'm such a, I cried for him.
Unbelievable. No, the ice bath is different though. The ice bath is different. I've been around a couple of athletes that try to get me in there and I'm like, like I've been in a hot Cheeto bath before. A hot Cheeto bath? Yeah, like full. Of Cheetos? Yeah, full pool of Cheetos, yeah. Why would you do that? It was for this music video for one of my songs called Brown Justin Bieber.
It just felt right. I had to swim in Hot Cheetos for the video, and it burned so crazy. My skin was all red after. I would still rather do that any day than ice bath, so I feel you.
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Chapter 3: What inspired the creation of Chef Suie?
Did you come out all orange? Yeah. No, actually. Do you look like an orangutan?
Yeah, I had all the Latinos trying to suck me out. All the Latinos. They were trying to get the Cheeto dust off my fingers, off all my fingers. Oh, that's so good.
I don't even have anything cool to say about that.
You like hot Cheetos? No.
You look like the type of guy that would be like, hell no, hot Cheetos are not it. Dude, I'm 58. I eat something like that, I might just stroke out. You know, I could drop right there.
See, that's the thing. 58-year-olds will say that, I can't handle a bag of Hot Cheetos. And then you go to the backstage, back room, they're all doing coke and all different types of pills I've never seen. I'm like, chill. I can handle this shit, but no Hot Cheetos?
You know, the cocaine now nobody can handle because 70% of it's laced with fentanyl.
That's actual stats?
Oh, yeah. Holy shit. Check this out. Did you know that... Every seven minutes, someone between the age of 18 and 45 dies of fentanyl. Every seven minutes in this country. Holy. Dude, it's that bad? Oh, yeah. Bro, that's crazy. Dude, someone's already dropped and we're only seven minutes into this thing. It's the worst. And the worst part about it is you're close with your old man, right?
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Chapter 4: How did Suigeneris turn the Empire State Building purple and gold for Kobe?
Chapter 5: What is the significance of Alexandra's law?
Oh, yeah. Holy shit. Check this out. Did you know that... Every seven minutes, someone between the age of 18 and 45 dies of fentanyl. Every seven minutes in this country. Holy. Dude, it's that bad? Oh, yeah. Bro, that's crazy. Dude, someone's already dropped and we're only seven minutes into this thing. It's the worst. And the worst part about it is you're close with your old man, right?
You love your old man. I mean, I heard you while we were eating pancakes.
Yeah.
How were the pancakes?
Amazing. Fluffy as hell.
They were. They were so good. But your father's in love with you. Can you imagine the pain he would have if you did cocaine and were gone? He'd lose his mind.
That's crazy.
You close with your mom?
Yep. You love her? Yep. I'm a family guy. Huh. Well. Damn, that's creepy, bro. If that normalcy is for real, be careful out here. When you're doing concerts, you're doing shows? Not right now. Not right now? No, yeah. I put down the shows and concerts for a while. It's been maybe three years. I'll come out when the homies have a show. I'll come out and perform my song with them.
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Chapter 6: Why did Suigeneris decline to appear on Gordon Ramsay's cooking show?
I'm sitting there rapping these songs and these people don't... They don't feel it, you know, or they don't even know me. And it's like, I can make them feel it or whatever, but it's like, bro, I'd rather do this for my supporters. I'd rather go on live or I'd rather, you know, talk to them.
Do you ever do it on a live stream on Instagram?
Yeah, so what I do is, like, rather than doing something like that, is I'll go live on Instagram and just play them some music or churn up with them. Or, like, I was doing this one thing for a while with Encore where we were doing, like, a show every Friday, but it was a digital show. And, like, we'll bring, like, the top fans backstage, like, on virtually. And then we would, like, have, like...
Chapter 7: What are some cooking tips from Suigeneris?
people like all competing for different money and then we'll give it to like the best one. But it was like something for my fans more like my, not just fans, supporters, you know, or people trying to chase the same dream as me. Right. So like, I don't know. I like, I like being close. Even if it's 10 people, I'd rather it be like this than 3000 people who are Travis waiting for Travis Scott.
And they're just annoyed that I'm performing, you know? Right. I want to go out there when they know my songs are here, when they, you know, they feel my vibe. I'm not just going to pop out and do a show and just, Like, it's not like the old days where, like, you go, you perform and perform and perform until you get your name out there. You sell CDs. You sell shit in real life, word of mouth.
I saw him over there, you know? It's not like that. You're going live. I'm going to have fucking 5,000, 10,000 people in there. I mean, what? You think I could sell out 5,000, 10,000 people, like, in one second? You know? So that's the best way to get the reach to my audience. Especially the people who are far away who could never see me in real life. They live in the UK and Brazil.
Those are the biggest supporters because they're like, dude, I love this guy. We have nothing like this out here. The swag, the lyrics, the vibe.
It's also the Latin connection. Yeah, yeah. People always feel more connected to their people for some reason. It's getting less so now with the kids today because kids don't see color anymore. Yeah. They just don't. They just don't, which is the greatest part about the kids today. But you've been in this game since you were a child. Yeah, forever. How did it affect you, man?
Honestly, I feel like me being in the game early was the best thing that could happen for me because I was losing my mind growing up. I felt like Literally from kindergarten all the way to when I dropped out in freshman year, like, I could not be there for eight hours a day chasing something that isn't my dreams. You know, like, I know multiplication. I know division. I know English.
Like, let's go get this money because my parents, they struggled for a long, long time. And it's like, I couldn't see past Lion King. I didn't want Lion King Part 2. I didn't want to watch Finding Nemo. I just wanted to get some more money so my mom's not sitting in the car crying, you know? More money, more problems. Nope. More money, less problems. Oh, that's... You weren't that broke.
If it made more problems, if I got to do this, got to do that, hey, at least I got the money. If you don't have money, you can't eat. If you don't have money, you can't pay your dog's vet bill. If you don't have money, you can't go to the dentist. If you don't have money, you can't even live. So there's no problem.
Different, different, different problems. Yeah. As you're like, you'll see as your life gets bigger. Okay. Um, your problems get bigger, right? It's the basic stuff, right? That is cool. Like you don't have to worry about, you know, a roof over your head or you don't have to worry about the food, right? Yeah. Uh,
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