What happens when the thing that defined you no longer defines you? In this episode of Winning The Away Game, Justinus Adriaanse and Flip van der Merwe sit down with rugby international and Behind The Ruck co-host Rudy Page, alongside former banking executive, helicopter pilot, and Relocated South African founder Jan Higu. From professional sport to entrepreneurship, from executive leadership to immigration, this conversation explores the uncomfortable reality of starting over. Both guests share deeply personal stories about identity, purpose, fear, reinvention, and what it takes to build something meaningful after success. If you've ever faced a major life transition, wondered what's next, or felt like you're starting from zero again, this episode is for you. Key Takeaways Why losing your identity can be harder than losing your job How Rudy Page rebuilt purpose after retiring from professional rugby Lessons Jan learned from leaving corporate leadership and moving abroad Why vulnerability creates stronger communities than perfection The hidden emotional costs of immigration and reinvention How continuous learning becomes your greatest advantage in a second career Chapters 00:00 Introduction 03:10 Favourite Springbok Memories 06:58 Why Rudy Retired From Rugby 08:40 Starting Behind The Ruck 10:40 Losing Purpose After Sport 14:20 Reinventing Yourself Multiple Times 16:00 Immigration, Adversity and Resilience 21:10 Learning Podcasting From Scratch 24:40 Lessons From Rugby That Still Matter 28:30 Why Jan Left Corporate Life 31:20 The Reality Of Living Abroad 36:00 Helicopters, Celebrities and Risk 39:30 Fear, Faith and Uncertainty 43:00 When Things Go Wrong Overseas 47:30 Identity After Success 53:00 Final Reflections Listen on Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/26fB2unP9Ih6IA3QkjnGQF?si=4b4380f24a144716 Listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/za/podcast/winning-the-away-game/id1853818584 Connect with Justinus:https://www.linkedin.com/in/justinusadriaanse/ Connect with Flip:https://www.linkedin.com/in/flipvandermerwe/ Check out our other channels: Website: https://wtagpodcast.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/winning-the-away-game-podcast/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/wtag_podcast/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@wtag_podcast Winning The Away Game is produced by Jonathan Warncke Connect on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/%F0%9F%8E%99-jonathan-warncke-45b2095/ Ping Productions: https://www.pingproductions.net/

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