The Indus Civilisation (Radio Edit)

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Greg Jenner 0:52
Hallo und willkommen zu You're Dead to Me, dem Radio 4 Comedy-Podcast, der die Geschichte ernst nimmt. Mein Name ist Greg Jenner, ich bin ein öffentlicher Historiker, Autor und Broadcaster. Und heute gehen wir zurück in die Bronze-Zeit und fahren den Indus-River, um alles über die Archäologie von Toiletten, Terrakotta, Ornithenien und sogar Unikornen zu lernen. Ja, es ist die Indus-Zivilisation. Und um uns diese gerettete Geschichte zu entdecken, haben wir zwei sehr besondere Gäste mit uns. In History slash Archaeology Corner. She's a postdoctoral fellow at University of Cambridge Museums and postdoctoral research associate at Pembroke College, Cambridge. Her research includes the archaeology of the Indus Civilization of South Asia, as well as empire and race in museum collections.
Greg Jenner 1:30
And she's a founding member of the European Society of Black and Allied Archaeologists. It's Dr. Danica Parik. Welcome, Danica.
Dr Danika Parikh 1:36
Hello, thank you for having me, Greg.
Greg Jenner 1:39
I'm excited to dig in. Oh, an archaeology pun. Well done. Congratulations. Secret handshake for you. And in Comedy Corner, he's a stand-up comedian, writer and podcast regular. You might have seen his stand-up special Dots on HBO Max or heard him on Radio 4 or seen him on Mock the Week or Have Got News for You or Live at the Apollo or MASH Report. He's very busy and you'll definitely remember him from our Julius Caesar episode. It's Ahir Shah.
Ahir Shah 1:59
Welcome, Ahir. Hello, Greg. And as I learned, it's actually Julius Caesar. So who's the historian now?
Greg Jenner 2:06
Heute gehen wir weit zurück in das alte Vergangenheit, also weit über Julius Caesar, um ein Thema mit viel niedrigerer Namenwahrnehmung zu erforschen. Was weißt du über die Indische Zivilisation, Ahir?
Ahir Shah 2:19
Ich denke, dass Indisch das Wort Hindu auslöst, etymologisch. Ich denke, dass das die Sache ist. I imagine that this is what is now like northwest India and Pakistan. I'm sure that the current government of India would like us to believe that it was exclusively in India and these people identified as Hindus and had little statues of Ganesh that they carried around with them all the time and invented faster than light travel and all of this sort of business until they were rudely disturbed or what have you. But I'm not sure quite how historically accurate some of the BJP's claims on that front are.
Greg Jenner 2:56
Great! Well, that brings us to the first segment of the podcast, the So What Do You Know? This is where I have a go at guessing what you, our lovely listener, might know about today's subject. And I'll bet you've heard of Troy, the subject of Homer's epic poem, The Iliad, as well as the slightly dodgy film with Brad Pitt. And we've previously regaled you about the glories of Ramesses the Great and ancient Egypt and the New Kingdom and all that. But these mighty cities came centuries after the Indus people were doing their thing. And yet, the Indus civilization doesn't get anywhere near as much coverage in modern films or books or television or whatever. Maybe you've seen the Hindi-language film set in the city of Mohenjo-Daro. It stars Bollywood-Heartthrob Hrithik Roshan. Or maybe you've read Vineet Bajpai's trilogy of thriller novels. But for most of you, I reckon you're coming into this episode feeling pretty blank. So, wer waren die ältesten Menschen der Inder und was hatten sie zu essen? Und wo gehen sie in die Toilette?
Greg Jenner 3:52
Und wie wissen wir alles über sie? Und was hat das mit Unikornen zu tun? Lass uns herausfinden. Danica, lass uns mit den Grundlagen anfangen. Wann und wo war die Inder-Zivilisation und wie lange her sind wir zurück?

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