In this powerful return episode, Dr. Ben sits down again with author and kingdom teacher Abraham John to unpack his newest book, The Mystery of the Tree of Life—and why its message feels especially urgent in a world where “everything that can be shaken is being shaken.” Together, they explore the two spiritual “operating systems” introduced in Eden: the tree of the knowledge of good and evil (information, moral striving, fear-based reaction, performance, division) versus the tree of life (communion, sonship, Spirit-led revelation, rest, authority, and alignment with heaven). Abraham explains how the fall wasn’t merely behavioral—it was governmental, involving two kingdoms and two ways of seeing, hearing, and living. And the fruit of the wrong system is unmistakable: shame, fear, and hiding. Dr. Ben connects these truths to real-life healing—how beliefs and heart postures impact the nervous system, the body, and long-term health—while Abraham lays out a practical pathway for transition: moving from external obsession and “right vs. wrong” reasoning into moment-by-moment communion with the Father, learning to seek God’s perspective first instead of defaulting to fear, judgment, and reaction. If you’ve felt overwhelmed by the darkness being revealed in the world—or frustrated that “good efforts” don’t seem to produce lasting fruit—this conversation is an invitation to return to the source: life, love, and the finished work of Christ. Get the book: The Mystery of the Tree of Life More resources: thekingdomnetwork.org (also available on Amazon)

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