Fletch, Vaughan & Hayley's Lil Bitta Pod - 29th September 2026

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Can dogs and other animals develop PTSD after traumatic experiences?

Hayley Jane Sproul 0:00
From the Zim Podcast Network. It's Flechborne and Haley's Little Bit A Cod. Welcome to a little bit of pod. Now I will blame the Heart of the Beast film, the Dog One. The Dog One with Brad Pitt film in New Zealand. It's opened up a whole new world to me of animals experiencing PTSD.
Fletcher Christian 0:20
Yeah.
Hayley Jane Sproul 0:21
Okay. It was just not something I considered. Absolutely. Like the rescue greyhounds. Oh I mean greyhounds would nervous wrecks.
Fletcher Christian 0:29
When I first started working in television there was this greyhound that would come in of so afraid of men. Like if it it would be like they're always looking around and if a man walked by it'd be like a big thing.
Hayley Jane Sproul 0:37
Yeah, because they probably thought it was gonna be put in a cage and raced around a Fominui race racetrack. Yeah at six o'clock on a Friday night.
Fletcher Christian 0:45
Ball of fluff. Yeah, yeah.
Hayley Jane Sproul 0:46
Exactly.

Can cows experience PTSD after traumatic events?

Hayley Jane Sproul 0:47
So I think my cow might have some PTST. Oh, for crying out. Well I just can cows get PTST. Yes, cows can experience long lasting psychological.
Fletcher Christian 0:59
Actually, where were the cows during the war?
Hayley Jane Sproul 1:02
They were in their own war at home providing milk for the troops. Well though to be fair, one day you're in a paddock and your cow you're just walking around getting milked and eating grass and then all of a sudden there's trenches and soldiers in your field. Yeah, those lovely French fields. And you don't you don't know where to stand 'cause you could stand on a mine. The cows just loved willy nilly walking through Flanders Fields eating the poppies. Yeah. And the chill is then all of a sudden Yeah.
Fletcher Christian 1:28
Cows can experience just r instant
Hayley Jane Sproul 1:30
mints. Mints in the trenches. Yeah, yeah. That's what they called it in World War Two. Instant mints.

What dangers might cows face in a wartime battlefield?

Hayley Jane Sproul 1:34
Like a cow sit on a landmine.
Fletcher Christian 1:35
Yeah. Or
Hayley Jane Sproul 1:36
if you were hungry and you'd run out of rations, you'd just grenade a cow.
Fletcher Christian 1:39
Half a grenade upper.
Hayley Jane Sproul 1:41
Yeah.
Fletcher Christian 1:42
Just go from the inside, I reckon. Get on us one of those gloves.
Hayley Jane Sproul 1:46
But you want to be careful that you're not accidentally eating a German troop who also stood on a landmine. Because that would have been instant mints as well. Yeah. Hard to tell the difference between beef mints and human mints. Yeah. And a pinch. Yeah. Mix it together. Trust myself to insert a grenade, take the pin out and pull my arm and run away fast enough before it explodes. What if it
Fletcher Christian 2:05
clinched around you? You know, and you're still holding them for the biggest thing. I reckon your arm's dumped.
Hayley Jane Sproul 2:10
Your arm's gone, but the rest of you're surviving.
Fletcher Christian 2:11
Yeah, and we've got mints. I'm
Hayley Jane Sproul 2:13
not touching mints if it might have some human mints in it.

Why do the hosts joke about beef, pork, and human mince?

Hayley Jane Sproul 2:15
What are the mints? I buy the bork. I buy the bork mints at the butcher. It's half beef, half pork. Oh yeah, that's good stuff. Yeah, that's good. So what I'm saying is apparently don't we taste like pigs? So what I'm saying is I don't want to get out. Boomin mints. Yeah. That's human mints. Okay. Could be a guy. The cows can get PTSD after surviving or witnessing traumatic events like wolf attacks. Oh.

Can a cow develop anxiety after getting stuck in a muddy yard?

Hayley Jane Sproul 2:37
I mean, why do you think your cows got what's it without? Did it witness you getting into the sparpool? No, I can't see the spar pole. But also shrivels really rude. It's really rude. But my naked body akin to a wolf attack. No, it's so I my cow setup is there's the shed and then there's the yard and that's fenced. Yeah. And then there's a quite a step down and as it's been muddy over winter the step down's got like boggy, so the step down's got more. Right. And when he goes into the um fenced area to have a drink out of the trough he can't come back out.
Fletcher Christian 3:11
I stuck.
Hayley Jane Sproul 3:13
He's a PTSD, isn't he? He's a little strapped. I think he might have tripped and fallen and embarrassed himself. Right in front of the chickens. Yeah. And now he's like I won't do I won't do that again.
Yeah.
Hayley Jane Sproul 3:25
And now he just so when he goes in to get in to that fence he just can't work out how to get out again.

How might PTSD affect a cow’s behavior, weight, and anxiety?

Hayley Jane Sproul 3:30
So how is his
Fletcher Christian 3:30
PTSD manifesting?
Hayley Jane Sproul 3:32
Actually he's lost some weight.
Fletcher Christian 3:33
Oh got my favourite kind. I've got a bit of anxiety weight loss at the moment. I fucking loving it, man. Yeah, well that's what
Hayley Jane Sproul 3:41
he is he is actually looking s getting the you know, his barrel his barrel guts is kind of tucked in. Tucking in nicely, yeah same.

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