本期嘉宾陈海贤是心理学博士，心理咨询师，畅销心理学著作《了不起的我》的作者。他的微博是@陈海贤_动机在杭州，微信公众号是@陈海贤。本期话题：2:20 《了不起的我》这个标题的含义12:15 为什么陈老师最喜欢书的最后一部分？25:40 做学问的终极阶段是做个教育者38:28 宇宙设计者真的舍得浪费努力积累起来的自我吗？42:40 陈老师人生中最难的改变51:50 为什么创造的人生最值得过1:11:45 陈老师为什么撕掉了自己科普的标签？1:24:20 创造的人通常都是孤独的References《人生十二法则》by 乔丹·皮特森《了不起的我》by 陈海贤大象的比喻，积极心理学，海德特“Steve说”被评为2019苹果最佳播客，是一个基于泛心理学视角，以拓展意识边界和促进个人成长为目标的深度对谈和问答类节目。主播史秀雄是独立心理咨询师，译有《人生十二法则》，著有《假性亲密关系》，也是播客《Man立》的主播。Support Steve说
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