Barry Conchie

…Okay, so let me shift gears and talk about the book, The Five Talents That Really Matter. How Great Leaders Drive Extraordinary Performance. And I think what's just so just catching already is we are definitely seeing an emerging emphasis on a different kind of leadership than probably existed, Barry, when you first started in your career.…

…So I'm going to ask you a question, and then I'm going to ask a similar one for you, Sarah. And you probably know the question, because as we just determined, humans are predictable. But just in case, in your tenure, Barry, the more you've seen, have you seen that people really stay the same? Or have you seen people as whole and as individuals change?…

…Well, Barry and I worked together at the last company that I was with. He was one of their major clients. And when it came time for me to leave that organization, I reached out to Barry to ask him if he could help me get another job. And he just said, over my dead body, if you're leaving this company, you're coming on board with me.…