Abbie Chatfield

So the fact that he is now gagging for separation of church and state and saying that the Pope shouldn't be a political figure and also calling the Pope a radical leftist is – Yeah, wild.

So fucking wild.

I think he's fully deranged.

I think he is aware that he's losing grip and control.

Yeah.

While clamouring for it.

It's also just anything to distract from the Epstein files.

Absolutely, which speaking of Melania's announcement saying I had nothing to do with the Epstein files last week that apparently Trump didn't know that she was going to do.

If you missed it, and also by the way, this isn't a Trump episode, don't worry, I'll be over it after this.

We'll get past it.

I was just laughing at him saying that Pope Leo is soft on crime.

It's like what the fuck are you talking about?

The way that Americans speak as well as though no other place in the world that I know of regularly uses phrases like soft on crime, tough on crime.

Like they have this really intense police state.

We do as well.

But, again, the rhetoric I've never seen –

a politician in Australia have a whole platform based on I'm tough on crime and then accusing other politicians of being weak on crime.

Yeah, it's brought up for sure but Americans are really hyper-focused on military being tough on crime and borders and it is leaking into Australia but it's a very interesting – it's all just sort of –

I don't know how to explain it.

It's like figureheads.