Adam Buxton

Yeah.

And we were like, yeah, okay, well, this is a thing to do with dad.

And actually a lot of those ideas came from Joe and I would never have been able to generate them because my relationship with my dad was not close in that way.

So to me, it was just excruciating the idea of having to spend a whole week in Ibiza with him.

You know, we would hang out during the days, we'd be on the beach, and he liked it on the beach, but then in the evenings he hated it because he just found the whole atmosphere overwhelming and grotesque, was his word.

I loathe the grotesque, anything carnivalesque, you know, papier-mache heads and just any kind of chaos.

He didn't like chaos, you know, because he'd been in the war.

He was in the Second World War.

And I feel like once you've seen real horrific chaos, then your tolerance for it as fun goes way down.

So I think that's what he felt like.

That was kind of the root of the problem with a lot of the things that we were into and my generation were into.

He couldn't get his head around it.

Like, why do you embrace chaos?

Like, you remember that track, Higher State of Consciousness by Josh Wink?

Yeah.

When he heard that, he was like...

this does not compute.

Why would you listen to this?

It's like the pure Santa chaos.

Anyway, we went to, we took him to a club, we took him to space and it was, it's pretty hard, techno, dark.