Adam Tooze

China's the decisive variable in your demand equation, right?

India is never going to be a China.

China is the be all and end all.

They've been desperately trying to get a big pipeline deal with the Chinese done.

they've somehow maybe got there, they are not going to back away from that.

So I think the idea that you break Europe so as to win, I mean, it has amazing logic, but I don't think it would work.

My modest suggestion is, I think it probably might not work out like that.

Plus, why is it strategic territory?

Because of climate change, which isn't happening.

Hey, John, we're making this show.

If you want to answer that question, try making this show in mainland China.

Okay.

All right.

Try making a show like this in Russia.

Yeah.

At the limit, clearly, there are huge differences in the world and they're still extremely meaningful and absolutely worth fighting for.

And we still, at this very moment, are the beneficiaries and the game is not done and midterms are coming up and these people are wrong about so many of their hypotheses.

Is there a pure, clearly defined, do we still know what freedom is?

All of that, I agree, is kind of out the window.

But I mean, really, it would be self-indulgent to deny the huge differences, which are still very real.