Alex Rampell

And I say this because the best entrepreneurs that I've met

They have learned everything about the space.

To show what a great investor I am, when I was running my company, TrialPay, I met with, I think, Patrick Callison.

I know a lot about payments.

I've been doing like payment stuff since 1997 on the intranet, which is kind of early stages for intranet online acceptance of credit cards.

Meet Patrick.

And obviously, I passed on doing the seed round of Stripe because I'm a genius.

It was called Dev Payments at the time.

I was not in the Drewson Horowitz, so don't hold it against me.

It didn't hurt our DPI.

And luckily, the firm invested in them.

But two things.

I asked Patrick, where are your customers going to come from?

Because everybody uses Chase Payment.

He's like, oh, my customers don't exist yet.

It's like the stupidest answer I've ever heard.

But obviously, it was genius.

But number two, what really did impress me is that he knew everything about the history of the payment systems.

I think he actually went out to go meet D. Hawk, the founder of Visa.

John Collison gave me a book on one of those Springer yellow academic textbooks on the origins of the payment system.