Alex Tarnava

He's a PhD chemist, you know, from the pharmaceutical industry, designs molecules, synthesizes them for drugs.

And at first he called it the worst pseudoscience he'd ever heard in his life and gave me all these reasons why, you know, hydrogen has no physiological role.

And even if it did, why you'd want to inhale it rather than drink it.

And we can get into that later.

They have different distribution of body.

But I had read every publication on the therapeutic potential of hydrogen at the time.

So I was able to rebut him, give him answers to all his objections.

And he said, well, okay, I did not expect there to be a single study on this.

I still don't buy it, but okay, I'll take a look at what you're doing.

And I just, I was so excited that someone was going to help me out with what I'm doing because it was working.

I just kept sending the paper every day, a new paper.

And serendipitously, I sent him one on a certain disease model that it was a phase two trial, like 60 participants that had really strong results.

uh i didn't know it but he was designing small molecules for that disease at the time really and he called me and said hey i want to meet you for lunch and he had printed off the paper and he said this paper he's like the others i was just having to look at the methodology and the conclusions but i'm a subject matter expert i'm designing molecules on this disease so i've had to

learn about it.

And unless this is fraud, this stuff works, right?

Are you sure you want to do this just as a do it yourself project and that you don't want to commercialize it?

And I thought long and hard, I didn't want to go into the supplement industry.

I still had all my reservations about

you know, evidence and trustworthiness and yeah, everything.

And I'm like, okay, like what are the regulations in being a drug?