Alex Tarnava

Could I raise money?

And then, so I started looking into raising money and I started learning about shareholder primacy, you know, and all the evil that happens from that.

And then sort of looking at the regulations, I'm like, well, I don't even think this fits the definition of a drug.

It, uh,

you know seems to be playing more of a regulatory role right it has pleiotropic benefits so back to the supplement avenue but i'm sort of thinking how can i do this ethically you know so that i can sleep at night and look at myself in the mirror and this whole time i'm going down and i'm still trying to make it you know because at the end of the day i still want it for myself

Well, yeah.

Because we'd figured out how to, he'd optimized my formula from mortar and pestle to make like 20 at a time.

And within like a few weeks, I wasn't that far off.

But then to make them on actual production equipment, like millions at a time at high speed, that was 16 months, 3000 of iterative adjustments and 15 failed scale up attempts.

But again, I'm extremely obsessive and I don't stop until I solve a problem or a challenge, you know, as I think of them.

We got there, we made our first production batch and I thought to myself, I don't have a plan to sell these.

I don't know what I'm going to do.

I just want it to keep moving forward.

And that's how a lot of my life has been.

I move forward and then make the plan after I figure something out.

So.

I decided I didn't want to sell this unless I had a plan to see if it was effective or not.

And even though I was getting the same concentration that a lot of these studies were, I could use those.

What if there's something different?

What if there's a different side reaction?