Alistair Campbell

And these energy flows in the modern age where norms are breaking down, it becomes even more important.

But there is effectively a bit of a humanitarian catastrophe going on in Cuba.

And interestingly, going back to some of the things we talk about with Trump and the changing world order, the question there, why is the UK government silent?

I'm sure the UK government has been saying things, but they haven't cut through to me.

The things that have cut through to me have been China and Russia.

condemning this as a violation of sovereignty.

So it is underlining once more that we're in this very, very different world.

And of course, Trump is, as ever, he's really sort of using every weapon at his disposal.

There's economic warfare.

There are the military threats.

He sent the head of the CIA essentially to sit down with the government and say, you don't need to go or you don't need to change or go.

And of course, the threat of military action at the back of this.

So I think we're talking here about Trump.

We constantly talk about Trump wanting sort of, you know, right history.

He keeps saying that he's going to be the president who sorts out Cuba once and for all.

Now, he says that about a lot of things.

We'll see whether he actually manages to deliver.

But if I were Cuban right now, I'd be very, very worried.

Which government of the world would do it?

Spain!