Alistair Campbell

It's a very, very good point.

I'm going to spend the whole evening thinking about which country might actually... What about Denmark?

Why Denmark?

Well, maybe on the point about why is the UK government being so silent, maybe your children should become the UK government.

Now, let's move on.

Richard, what did you make of the treatment of Gaza flotilla activists by Itamar Ben-Gavir and the Israeli forces?

And if people haven't seen this, it's this flotilla, I think about 400 people from 40 or different countries.

I mean, largely symbolic, but with stuff that they're going to try to get to Gaza.

They were essentially picked up by the Israeli authorities, and they were put in this place.

And the pictures that were put out were of Ben-Gavir taunting them, abusing them.

They were made to kneel.

They had their foreheads on the ground.

And he was basically laughing at them, frankly, for being activists.

you know, you've had hostages that have been used by states.

But I think you're right.

I think this is more synonymous of a kind of non-state state actor.

Ben Gavir has got a track record of, he says he's really, really proud that he's basically brought in a regime of effectively brutality in the prisons.

It was a horrible thing I read recently about, you know, rape inside prisons has been used as a kind of weapon against some of these guys.

And also, although Netanyahu, as you say, has rebuked publicly Ben-Gavir on a couple of occasions, on that specific thing, he basically said that he did not criticize what was the evidence, the people involved in the evidence that was produced.

In fact, he called them heroes, didn't he, at one point?