Amy Chapman
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
Hi guys, it's Tony Robbins. You're listening to Habits & Hustle. Crush it.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
And then it just sort of blended to all voice. I work in animated voice. I help people make sounds. I help people like who, have like funny little voices and they do funny things. I like help them shape their voice. I work on Rick and Morty.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
I help the new Rick and Morty characters sound like the old Rick and Morty because I can hear and I can feel what people are doing with their voice and what they need to be doing with their voice.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
Yeah, I would say like pretty much every voice teacher and voice coach was a singer at some point. It's a weird profession to go into if you weren't a singer.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
Not that many. Right. There are not that many voice therapists. Like this is a very niche and then I took it even more niche. So like I am really right there. Really. But I brought it so far to the niche point that then I expanded it out to not niche. Like everybody's got a voice.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
A lot of times the managers will find me. How? What was the first time? I think Sia was the first time. And I signed a lot of NDAs for a lot of things, so I can't talk about like— Too late now. I know. Well, they're fine, but I can't talk about everybody and why they come to me for certain things. Okay, okay. But they'll find me if they're going on tour.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
And they just need some tour training. And my name is floated around there. You know, I think managers and tour managers all know. And they're like, cool, my client's about to do a big year-long tour. They're having maybe some issues. Or we just want to make sure that they're strong so we don't cancel shows. So can you work with them before?
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
And then they meet me and they're like, okay, I like you. Right. And they just keep me on for life.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
I have an elliptical in my office.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
Yeah, I do. And it's so people can sing and breathe and huff and puff and sing all at the same time. But yeah, cardio is a big part of it.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
Yep. Right? Beyonce does the same thing.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
Miley Cyrus does the same thing. Yeah.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
Yep. Yep. Because you need to train your voice to be able to come together while you're like... Right. So you're doing that. So yeah, it's all the training.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
I mean, breath. Breath support. Bringing a big, wide breath and not letting it all out. So the big, wide... Spread your ribcage out and hold your breath. And then be able to talk whilst not just, ah, not letting it all out. So keeping that support.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
She's doing a show. Okay. Opening a new Broadway musical called Redwoods. It's fantastic. Yeah. And yeah, just helping her prepare for that, making sure that she's going to stay strong throughout because Broadway is a whole different beast. You have to do eight shows a week. Right. So she's singing eight shows a week.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
And so I'm making sure that her voice is strong, that she can do all these things with a lot of this stuff. So A, we're training her voice. That's like muscle training. coming together.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
Practicing in very specific exercises. If somebody has a weaker voice or their voice is a little bit breathy and they sort of talk like this, I will give them a hard exercise like, uh, hold that. Right? Just holding a long, hard ah, go up the scale. It's muscles. Your vocal cords are the size of your thumbnail. Do you know that? So teeny tiny. And all it is is little tissue.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
And then there's muscles on the side, so you bring it together. So I will have a soft voice like that. Give that really big, loud sound, but not in a place where they're screaming and hurting themselves, but something that's really nice and supported. And then if somebody has a voice that's too hard and too rough, then I'm going to take it down. And I'll be like, okay, now for you, it's different.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
We're all so different. Everybody's vocal cords look different. Everybody's body's different. Everybody's throat, everybody's mouth, everybody's size, everybody's so different. So there's not one way how to do everything.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
Well, that's a part of it sometimes. And sometimes it's not. Sometimes it's like, no, you need the strength to be able to do that. Right. How do you strengthen a voice? Exactly that. So if I'm going, ah.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
No, because when you're performing, it's a little different. You're singing things and bouncing off walls and doing something else. But if you're sitting there, it's just the same as lifting weights. You're lifting weights, but with your voice. So you're sitting there and you're holding it and you're holding it in the right place. All your muscles are coming together in the right place.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
So then all of a sudden you're out and you're like, oh, now I can just do whatever. And I have that strength. Like you work out, you do sit-ups. So then you have nice abs when you're out on the beach. It's the same.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
That's why I'm not wearing a bikini on the beach. But you do that. You train your voice with strength exercises or taking away strength exercises. You're not screaming on stage. So you're doing something else and your vocal cords are coming together softer. So you don't need that much recovery time.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
I want to answer this and I also want to ask you a question.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
What voice do you like? What do you like to listen to? In general? Yeah. If there's a person you like or a sound that you're like, okay. I like, I do like Sia. It can even be a speaking voice. It doesn't have to be a singing voice. What kind of voice do I like? Yeah. Is there somebody that you're like, I love to listen to them? Or on the contrary, is there somebody that you hate to listen to?
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
Love an accent.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
Totally, totally. So everything is different for everything. For every situation, I want a different voice. Like you said, when I listened to your podcast, because I did a lot of listening to your podcast before I came on this, and you have Tony Robbins who's giving a clip right before and he goes... You're listening to Habits and Hustle. Crush it. And I'm like, oh. Terrible.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
It's like it hurts me to hear that. And obviously, Tony's very successful.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
He knows what he's doing. But his voice, that rough, he's like yelling it. He's like, go, go, go. He's a motivational speaker. Totally. That is what he does. And that voice tells me that he works hard. that he goes and goes and goes and doesn't stop, that he doesn't care necessarily about that softness and that bringing that in. He wants you to go.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
So he's influencing with his voice, with that rough and da-da-da, for you to go. He is like your coach. He's your soccer coach, your football coach. He's like, go, go, go, go, go. But if I'm doing a yoga class, I'd be like, nah, bro. I can't. I can't listen to that right now. It gives me this. So your voice influences the same way if you're listening to music.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
When I got into the car to get here, they were playing classical music. And I told my driver, I was like, this is exactly what I needed right now because my life has been so crazy. I'm heading out to New York right after this. I'm packing. I'm doing all the things. And I just wanted that classical music. But if she had like rock and it was going and it was hard, I'd be like, no, I don't need that.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
It's the same with voice. It influences our body in a different way. So if somebody is like, how can I optimize my voice? I want to take it a step further and say, optimize it for what? What do you want people to feel when they're listening to you? If you're a mom, like you said, if there's a mom, who's she talking to? Is she telling her kids to clean their room? Yeah.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
Is she trying to assert her dominance in something? Like, what is the situation that you are trying to get a certain outcome? So for me, right now, in my mind, I want to tell you I'm a pro at this. I know what I'm doing. I know how I'm sounding. And my objective in this is to sound confident and knowledgeable. And so when I want to sound more confident and knowledgeable...
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
I'm not all the way over here. I'm not like dragging my voice long. I'm a little bit more to the point and I'm a little lower in my pitch and I'm not going up talk. So my voice isn't going up, but I'm a little bit more down talk. So the end of my sounds all go down. So it's a comment, not a question, but a comment. So it's different. Every single outcome is based on your objective.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
That makes sense.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
Clip that.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
Yes. That's a huge thing. You hear so many people and not everybody knows why they have a feeling of that person is not making me comfortable. But if I hear somebody and her voice is like this and she's saying, hi, Jen, I'm Amy and I'm a voice coach and I sometimes. Like you're like, enough. I can't.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
I would tell them, I would say, number one, is it a question? Because a question goes up at the end. Right?
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
Huh? You hear that. And immediately I question. And if I'm questioning something that somebody else is saying, I don't have confidence in that. That just like flies out the window. Yeah. But if she goes down. So now I'm going to take that same kind of pinched small voice and I'm going to say, hi, I'm Amy and I do this. You're like, okay, that's a little better.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
And then that pinch right in here, I'm like, that's too small. I want to show big. And kids are small. And we hear kids' voices in a different way. They're children. They're small. They're little. So it's all little. When I tell people, I say, open your throat. We have so much space that we don't always use. So then I open my throat. If you hear pitch... This note, ah, ah, that's the same note.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
But the second one sounds so much lower, right? You hear it in your brain. It's not. It's the same. But my space in my throat is different. One, two, three, four, five. One, two, three, four, five. All of a sudden, you're like, what? That's like a confident woman on that second one. And like a little kid in the first one.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
Yeah.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
Right, because she's controlling it, and she has great control over her voice. But she's not controlling her speaking. I don't know if she's not doing it because she doesn't want to, because she doesn't care, because she wants to give the impression of like, I want to be smaller. Because sometimes people like that.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
So we never know. And that's why I'm never like, there's one right answer. There's not one right answer. Right.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
I have a friend who's a, a big show host. I won't say on where, and she was having a, and she's just like so cute and you'd see her and she sounds like this and she's just like bubbly and so sweet. And she was having a talk with her managers and lawyers, and she put her foot down and she was speaking like this. And they were like, whoa. And she had to backtrack and say, oh, don't mind me.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
I'm just like a crazy little Latin chica. And you're like, she did that on purpose. She had to put her voice in that place for them to be like, oh, okay. Right. Now we like you. So she's using that small little voice to her advantage. So it's not like, We all need to have this big, booming, low voice. Sometimes women can be kind of manipulative in a great way.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
So that's why I'm like, what's your objective? What is it? And it can change. So I like to give people tools that you're going to have a whole tool belt of things that you can choose from. If you're in a room where you want people to like... like you and think you're so funny and cute and sweet, then you can talk in such a different way.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
But if you're in a place where you need to lay down the law and this is not okay, then you can speak in a different way. And some people are like, well, isn't that fake? It's like, what's fake? It's your voice. It's what you're trying to get across. Why is it fake? We all have different ways.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
If I'm getting pulled over by a policeman and I'm talking to my best friend who I'm just like shooting the shit with and I'm just talking like this, I'm not gonna talk to the policeman that way. I'm gonna say, hi officer, I'm so sorry, what was I doing? I'm gonna change the way I speak. We code switch. We do it all the time.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
We do it with our parents, with our in-laws, with our kids, with our teachers, with whoever. I am code switching throughout the day. And I think that's huge. It makes me more successful. It makes the clients I'm working with. They're not like, this girl doesn't know what she's talking about. It's like, oh, no, she does. But then I'm going to go to somebody else and be like, yeah, what's up?
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
You know, like we code switch. A hundred percent.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
So this, for that specific BuzzFeed, I'll give that as an example. Kane came to me. And he's kind of quiet and a little bit monotone. And he said, hey, Amy, so I do this. And I'm like, what? Like, you're so monotone. You're just right here. Nothing varies. You're just, you know, hey, how you doing? I was like, okay, we got to take a step back. What are you trying to get from me?
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
Do you want me to be excited by you? Get me excited. What does that look like? And I will take it further back of like, how did you speak as a kid? How did you want people to see you? Did you like to be in the front? Did you want to be center of attention or no? Do you want that now or no? You know, it goes back and back and back. But for him, I was like, let's get some intonation in there.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
So move your voice up. Bring it up. Bring your volume up at different times. Punch different things that you want to come and don't. Use your body. So you can see I use my body when I'm talking. I'm not just here, but I keep it bringing out. And that brings people in. So it's not all the, I'm not flailing around, but I want you to use your full body. I want you to use your eye contact.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
I want you to use your soul. When you're talking to somebody, there's no one else in the room. And if you're talking to a group of people, I want them to feel like there's no one else in the room. You don't have to lock eyes with them, but you have to feel that like, I am talking to you. I'm giving you my all. And after I talk, I am like zonked because I've given so much energy.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
I need to recharge.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
I wouldn't be here, Jen.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
Yes, of course. Practice makes permanent. Not perfect, but it makes permanent. The more you do something. So if somebody is very monotone and they sort of talk like this and everything's there, I'd say punch it up. Let's go one, two, three, four, five, four, three, two, one, two, three, four, five, four, three, two, one. So your voice is going up in pitch and going down.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
And I'll say like, give me a sentence. What'd you have for breakfast today? Oh, I had peanut butter and jelly sandwich. Give me that in 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1. I had a peanut butter and jelly sandwich today. I had a peanut butter and jelly sandwich today. I had a peanut butter and jelly sandwich today. So you can feel your voice doing da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da. And again,
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
You take it with a grain of salt. You can't always talk like this all the time because then you start feeling like you're on a roller coaster and that gets a little crazy. But you start getting the movement in your voice. It starts going down and then it's up and then it's down. So you're used to that. And then I'll say, okay, let's take it away. Now let's punch what's important.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
I had a peanut butter and jelly sandwich today. And when I say jelly, I'm like, it was the best jelly of my life. It was so good. The things that are important, those words that you really want people to listen to. Because when people are listening, I mean, like, I don't know how many people are going to be like, she had a peanut butter and jelly sandwich today.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
Like, that's the thing you want to say, but you're not listening to the words.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
You're listening to everything else. The intonation, the fact that I went, you're listening. And I put that in a whisper. That sound, you're like, ooh, bring me more. Bring me in. When I get quiet, and sometimes, like if I'm telling somebody something, you get quiet. And that doesn't just like, ah, you're more like. Like you lean into it. So especially like I coach a lot of TED Talkers.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
That was my next question. We're so nice. Yeah. So I coach a lot of TED Talkers and a lot of people have such great things that they're saying. They've written it out. Their speeches are fantastic or their speech writers are fantastic. Either way. But sometimes they can't deliver it or they're just reading it off. And you're like, first of all, never read off.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
I'd rather somebody ad-lib everything, get half the stuff wrong, than read off a piece of paper. Because when you're reading off a piece of paper, you're not going to have the big things that go up. It's just going to be...
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
Do you curse on this show? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. So if I'm telling somebody like, fuck you. You're so good. You know, like no one's going to be like, right, right, right.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
But if I'm like, fuck you, you know, and like do it in that way, then you're like, oh, you know, but like the way we say it and our tone changes everything.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
So a couple different things. I swing a pendulum because I will coach somebody who is pretty boring and I'm going to make them wackadoo. They're going to be all over the top and everything's going to be so crazy. And I know that they're going to walk out and be like, that crazy lady told me to do too much shit.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
And that pendulum's going to swing back right in the middle, right where they need to be. So I go way far on one side. Great. And I tell them that too. I'm like, listen, we're going psycho here and I want you to be free. Because also if somebody is – a lot of times people are a little bit flatter because they're a little embarrassed to go big. Shy. They're shy. They're embarrassed.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
I'm so happy to be here. And it gets me so excited every time somebody reads that. I'm like, God, I'm so cool. I'm like, God, it is good. But I have such a high self-esteem anyway.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
They're just kind of like – And there's nothing wrong with that. No, I know. Yeah. But if you're reserved, you're like, I don't want to do that. It feels weird. Feels weird. It feels weird to go big. And I'm like, feel weird. Feel weird. Don't feel shame. Don't feel embarrassed. Because if you're embarrassed, I promise you, your TED Talk's not going to do well.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
If you're like, I sort of like don't want to be here. That comes across. And people are like, well, if you don't want to be here, I don't want to be watching you. Right? But if someone's like, oh my God, I want to be here so badly. I'm so stoked to be here. And you can see that you're like, yeah, I want to be here with you. I don't care what you're talking about.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
You're talking about a toenail fungus. Sign me up. Like it's, so exciting because you're excited. Show me that excitement. And then take me on a journey. Show me that excitement. Show me big. So that's why when people are reserved, I'm like, go crazy. I have them jump around. I have them move about. I have them flail their arms up and really go wild. So then they don't feel that shame as much.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
Get weird. Get completely weird. Be embarrassed. Get it out. And then you can find places where you're like, yes, here I am talking about toenail fungus on my TED Talk. And then I'm going to bring it back because I'm telling you a story. And if every story is at a 10 the whole time, it feels like you're yelling at me. But I have to have you bring it back.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
And there's got to be parts where you bring it in. And like I said before, when I'm quiet, you lean in. So then I go big. And I go big where it matters. And then I pull you in. And I'm like, now you come into me because I'm going to bring it here. And then we're going to be someplace else in the middle. So give me a range of emotion. Give me a range of things to be excited about.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
When I see a movie and it's one character and he's the same exact throughout, you're like, you're so boring. But a good movie and a good character, you see an arc. You see them start somewhere else and end somewhere else.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
Voice down talk versus up talk. So that's more that confidence of a voice.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
So I'm a fast talker. I know that. I'm also hyper articulate. So I can speak really quickly, but you know exactly what I'm saying and every single sound comes out.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
So I'm not mumbling anything unless I'm doing it on purpose. Like when I said mumbling anything, like that was on purpose.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
That you heard it. So changing the speed at which I'm speaking is so important. It also gives me a chance to pause. And everybody talks about the pause. I love a pause. Even me just saying, I love a pause. That moment of silence, you listened. You listened. You're like, well, what is she going to say? So speed is huge in how you're delivering something. Am I going faster? Am I stopping?
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
And am I stopping even just to think about the next thing I'm saying? So I'll give people tricks like that. Like, take your time. Don't give everything at once. Stop. And then think, what am I going to say? How am I going to say it? What am I going to do with my speed? And that's to switch it up. So it's not, we're all the same speed. We're all the same tone. We're all this.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
You know what? When we talk about, I know we're going to talk about like confident voice and all that. But I think with the confidence, the self-esteem is so huge. And in my office, in my studio that I have people, I always say like, this is a brag friendly zone. I want no humility whatsoever. Like if you sound good, be like, yes. I sounded good.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
Our ears will get used to everything. That's why whenever, like, I'm sure your mom is like, my mom is like every other mom in the world that yelled at me all the time. Clean your room. And then you just tune it out because it was all at the same pitch. It was all loud. It was all yelly. It was all that. And you're like, boop. Like, it's not there anymore. But she was like, Amy.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
You better clean your room. You're like, okay, mom. You know, it scares you a different way because then all of a sudden you're like, I have to listen. You're engaging me differently.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
So it's both. And a pause. I mean, there's so much there. The number one thing to get somebody to hear you is to make sure they're listening. If I'm just yelling upstairs and they're doing something else, why are they going to listen? But if I go to my kid and I'm like, I have a kid named Mo. I'm like, Mo, you need to clean your room now. And he's like, okay, ma.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
You know, like make sure they're listening. That goes with every TED Talk you're doing too. If you're talking to somebody and they're like, ah, bah, bah. But if you stop and you pause and you're like, it's going to get awkward. And then all of a sudden people are going to listen. And you're like, now we can go. Thank you. And you keep going.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
You have to be careful what energy you're giving across because sometimes it's like, Right, right, right. You know, like when that happens. So it depends on what you're trying. But if you stop and you're like, thanks so much. Now, and you can like do it in a charming way that's just a little bit more approachable for people to be like, got it.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
Because I always was animated. I was a performer. So I always had all that there. But then once I started working with other people and noticing it in them, you know, when you teach, you learn. And once I started teaching people, I was like, oh, I can do that too. And then I just became way more cognizant just noticing that in everybody else.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
Because when we start to do the like, that wasn't so good. And then you're like, ew.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
Yes. So I have a big part of my business is like CEOs, managers, people who come to me and they say, I need to communicate better with my employees, with whoever. If I'm giving a meeting, I need those people to listen to me, things like that. So I had one recently, and sometimes I have to figure out what they're asking for help. And they'll say, like, I need help with my voice, with my tone.
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And I'm like, okay, let's dig deeper into that. And they don't have the language to necessarily say what it is. And so it was this guy. He was a CEO, and he got a lot of –
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
Nobody wants to be with that.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
heat from his hr about his tone and i was like what like nasal are you like too annoying like what what do you mean and he was like well i read all these books he read the the negotiator book on like chris voss that's the one you know i have he was on this show i'm short
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
Like all the people that were on the show, like all the things that have, here's your tips and tricks for the best this and how to be the master negotiator and confident voice and work well with this. But sometimes it comes across a little robotic.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
If you're like, I am just reading the book and I'm doing every single thing that they're saying, but I'm not actually communicating with a human, that they're just doing that. And once he started telling me, this is what I'm doing and this is how I talk to people and this is what is it. And I went, Is this how you talk to them too? Like that? He was like, yeah, of course.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
And they listen and da-da-da-da. I'm like, okay, let's stop for a second. What's your goal? What's your objective with the people? Well, I want them to like me. Great. Great place to start. So when we're talking about tone, it's like you're yelling at me like a dad. Like, you're just telling me what to do. You're my coach. And like, some people don't need that. They need more of a mentor.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
So if I were to change that objective and say, like, I want you to mentor me a little bit, how would you now talk to me about that? And so then he backed off a little bit. He was like... Okay, well, let's see how I can help you. I'm like, there. Do you see how you did that? How you just took it back from that like aggressive forward telling you what to do, but like, no, how can I help you?
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
Like we bring it in in a different way. So for him, I was like, the tone is not necessarily the problem. It's your objective. in what it is. And once you have that clear objective of how you want them to perceive you, then it goes a different route and you have a different voice to them. So you have to think about it in a different way. Take that a few steps back, right?
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
And the books are wonderful, by the way.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
It's very sterile. And if we all read those books and we all do the things, we're all going to be a bunch of robots in this society who like shake hands a certain way and down talk the certain way and work our bodies. We're all going to be the same. Like we have to have... us, our humanity, and the way we communicate with people as well. That has to be a part of it.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
It's taking a step back and getting first the objective. Everything has to zoom out a little bit. How do you want someone to perceive you? How do you want them to look at you? Respect, but also like... That you care. That you care. Yeah, I think that's it. Care is huge. And when you're caring for somebody, it's not like, okay, great, get this in by Monday. Right?
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It's, hi, how are you? Take a moment. Even... I'm like you, I am busy. Sometimes I do not have time to ask somebody how they are.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
So I would take the tone of that of like, how are you? How was your weekend? And I would add that tone to like the thing we need to get done. And sometimes you don't need the five minutes. It's a long foreplay. Yeah. Get straight to the main.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
Let's go to the main meal.
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Yeah.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
No, we're so taught to be like humility and humble pie, but like why?
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
If it is fake, but you have to also find that authentic warmness. So You are a businesswoman like me. You get straight to it. What is something that you would tell me, like if you're telling me a task to do for next week? Imagine I'm your assistant. Give me something. Oh, give you a task.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
Email Bob. Great. Now, imagine that like I was hurt or sick or something happened to me. But that's EQ. Sure. But wait, but wait. So imagine something hurt or happened to me. What would you say to me right there? How are you? How are you feeling? Great. That's something you just did right there. Now with that feeling, tell me to email Bob the same way.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
But you have to know your audience.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
With all of it. When you're speaking to a big crowd or even to one person or a small business meeting, know your audience. Yeah. Or do they want that down and dirty? Give me it real fast. Or do they need a little bit of that? Yeah. And sometimes you could use a little bit of that in everywhere. Just a little charm.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
Yeah. Yeah. I worked with a big office of women. So Danny Garcia. Yeah, I know her. Yeah. So I went to her.
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So she has an awesome business of women. It's all women. And she had me come in.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
Bodybuilder. She's a... powerhouse and an awesome, awesome human. But she had me come into her office and speak with all of her women in a big talk situation and say like, how can we each sound as capable as we are? Because we work in a world of men. We are in like a very big man's world and how can we hold our own? So I did that. I went and I sat and I said, all right, ladies, let's do this.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
How are we speaking? How do you want to become a cross? How do you want other people to look at you? You're sitting with a bunch of men, so you don't have the same... that you're talking to your friends. If you're with some other guy, you change it a little bit. And don't be afraid that it's fake. It is fake. We're all a little fake. We're all putting it on.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
Okay, tell me. Confidence is like you're confident in your ability to do something, right? Self-esteem is your worth. That's right. So you can have one and not the other. Like a football player can be like, I'm confident in the way that I can throw this ball, but I don't like myself.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
The only time I'm 100% real is when I'm laying in bed and I'm talking to my husband. I'm like, honey, I'm so tired or whatever it is. That's the one time where I'm just like, I'm not putting anything on. But it's okay to be fake. That's something that has such a bad connotation And I don't think it should.
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I really don't.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
And that's the EQ of it all too. Exactly. It's okay to be fake. We have to just accept that. And it's not like we're fake in a bad way. There's nothing malicious about it.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
Totally. And then you will follow suit. Again, the fake it till you make it.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
You'll follow suit. You'll get into a better mood if you're smiling and you're having a good time with people and like, oh, yeah, I am pissed. It's too much energy to be pissed.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
Yes, because you just release endorphins by acting a certain way. Totally. And so that's the same way of all of this. Like we're going to be the person we want to be. See that. What is your objective? What do you want that to sound like?
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
So I did a few different things. Number one, I did a big talk with everybody. And then I went individually, one by one. Okay. Because I think sometimes with some of this stuff, like you can give the big generals. Yeah. But each person is different. You know, that's why I've had such a hard time writing a book. Yeah. Because I'm like – It's every person, every human. Yeah, it's true.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
But if you like yourself and you can throw that ball, you're winning all around. Yeah.
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It's so individual.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
Right. So I would have everybody, when I was talking to everybody, I would pretend like I was talking individually. And I said, write down three things you're fantastic at in your job. Like, I want you to think about it. And this is where that self-esteem comes into it. Like, this is, I want you to brag. I want you to be like, I am fucking awesome at communications. Whatever it is.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
And so I had them all write it down. Okay. And then I went around and I said, I want you to tell me what it is that you're doing so well. And when you do it, I want you to convince everybody that you're that great. Like, believe it before you say it. And it has to come from here or it's not going to feel authentic. If you're like, I'm the best bread baker in the world. You're like, are you?
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
You know, like, but if you believe it, like, you haven't tried my bread. I am the best bread maker in the world. You know, whatever it is, you have to believe that. So I would start with that. Start with your positives. Start with the things that are easy to prove to somebody else. I am amazing. Then from there, say it. Believe it. Go big. Go animated. What word is the most important in that?
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
I am the best bread maker in the world. And then I'm like, punch that. Punch the word best. Punch the word that is the one that you want them to really focus on. And it's going to be different words throughout.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
So I would have them all go around and do different things where they punched a word and then they would pause before the word or the phrase or the couple words that they wanted people to really listen to. So I am the best bread maker in the world. So then they were like, whoa, whoa. Just have that pause, have that moment to listen to it and really absorb what they're saying.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
They're always early.
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I'm saying they're always early. Okay, okay. Yeah. Give me a second. Okay. This is a pause, everybody. This is a pause. We can edit this out.
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I'm going to come out of here and be like, all right, guys, let's get out of here.
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No, I want to think of something else.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
I should have done this an hour ago.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
It works, yeah. Reframe a question. Like tell me a question again of like what is just a – Like another question? Yeah. Just like reframe it in a way that I can just answer.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
Yep.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
So, It's so important before you go on, whether you're singing or speaking or doing any kind of talking in front of somebody, to center yourself, to breathe, and make sure your exhale is longer than your inhale. And I would do that. Have you heard of square breathing? Yep. So I would do 1, 2, 3, 4, hold 2, 3, 4, out 2, 3, 4, hold 2, 3, 4. So you keep doing that. So you really center yourself.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
And once you feel I am centered, you know that everybody out there wants you to succeed. They want to hear you. You want to talk to them. You're not talking at them. You're talking to them. So in your mind, think of the person you're speaking to. Not a group of people, not a thousand people, not 20 people, but who is it? And you're having a conversation with them.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
A lot of people are good one-on-one, but when it gets to be more people, they're like, I don't know how to do it. It's because you're not picturing a human and a soul and a connection. You're picturing a wall of people. But if you can connect with one, and again, it doesn't have to be looking at one, but you can say, I'm just connecting with you. I'm giving me, and I want to give you too.
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I just want to connect. Think of that connection.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
And the square breathing to really start it off to take those nerves down. And don't jump into it. Take your time. This is the thing that everybody's like, I got to go fast because I'm on here. And it's like really nervous to be like.
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Hi. I'm Amy. Thanks so much for being here. Today I'm going to be talking about voice. And so if I just took that one moment to connect, that connection is huge. They're going to feel it. You're going to feel it. You're going to feel like you're talking to a person, not just a bunch of people.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
Totally. I mean, like if we think of our own self-talk. Of like, that wasn't good. That wasn't so great. I don't look so good. Every day I look in the mirror and I do, you know, the first, I had once a therapist who was like, you need to do the self-talk and like tell yourself the positive things. And my eyes rolled so far back in my head. I was like, I'm not, I'm not going to do that.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
Amazing. I'm so happy too. I feel like I had a thousand things I wanted to talk about. And then I just got sidetracked of something else.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
I can't wait.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
Oh, you know, you were asking about like routines. I know I didn't ask you. That's okay. I'll still talk about it because I can't shut up. I find it really important every day to look good. And I know like people are like, yeah, but that's so shallow. I'm like, no, no, no. I'm not doing it for other people.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
I do it for me. Because if I know I look good, I know my hair's done, I know my makeup's done, I like my outfit, I like how I'm presenting. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Then I feel confident and my self-esteem is higher.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
And I feel better about myself. Yeah. And when I feel better about myself, I can talk. I can have the best time. But if I go out and I'm like, my hair looks like shit. I'm tired. I didn't put on a lip today. And like my outfit is gross. What am I wearing? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm not going to feel confident. You're going to look at me and be like... Right, right, right. She's not confident.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
Because you don't... Because I don't feel confident. A hundred percent. I mean...
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
So your working out is my getting ready. Getting ready. Yeah. And it's also like a meditative moment. When I'm sitting and putting on makeup or doing my hair, it's a moment that I'm I'm not on my phone.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
I'm not doing a thousand things. You got to concentrate. Concentrating. And I'm doing one thing. Never in my life do I do one thing at a time. I know. So it's my moment that I'm like, this is for me. I'm taking these 20 minutes and I'm going to put on my mascara for a painfully long time. And I'm just going to do it. And it's meditative.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
It's amychapman. That's my Instagram website, voicelabLA. If you want a voice lesson, don't call her.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
Like, I'm not going to sit and be like, you're beautiful. You're smart. And someone likes you. I'm not going to do that.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
It's so awkward. But if you're telling yourself that over and over and over and you're like, girl, you're hot. You are doing great. You are amazing. Your personality is good. Look at your life. If you just tell yourself that, it's that fake until you make it. Yeah. You'll start to fall in line and be like, I am hot, you know? I am hot. My body is great. I am successful. Like you listen.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
I think that's big. I think also like working on whatever it is, however you do it. So whether it's working out, which I wish I could say the same that I work out every single day. I don't. But I work every single day, and that's the thing that I'm like, I'm good at this because I do this day in, day out. You know what I'm saying?
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
I was a singer, yeah.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
Okay, what would you call yourself? A singer. So there's such a difference between an artist and a singer. A singer is like someone who can sing. An artist is – there's an artistry behind it. So I would look at someone like – Amy Winehouse to be like, you're an artist. Like you see that difference of someone who's like, she's doing her own thing. She has that brand, that style.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
And then someone else, I don't even want to say like, like I think Ariana Grande is a wonderful singer. And some people would call her an artist. But I'm like, you're a great singer. And your art is in that voice of that beautiful sound. Or maybe like Taylor Swift is a good one.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
Sometimes it's a mix of both.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
No, because you can be an artist and not be a star. Yeah. Right?
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
You can be like a fantastic artist, but nobody knows you or very few people know you. So you're not a star level. And you can be an awesome singer and not an artist. You can be an awesome artist and not really a singer. So Ariana would be more of a star. She's a star. She's a singer. And you know what? Some people are going to watch this and be like, Amy, you're wrong. She is an artist.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
And I think that is completely subjective if someone's an artist or not. Because then you go back to the question and you're like, well, what is art? What makes somebody an artist? Like Taylor Swift, you were going to say something about her. I was going to say Taylor Swift to me. I'm like, you are a singer. You are a star.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
And some people will call you an artist, but I'm like, I call you a singer.
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Because nothing... To me, personally, I'm going to get so much shit for this. You'll never get hired by them ever.
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I'm so sorry. Her people even reached out to me recently, and I'm like, now they'll never. Sorry.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
Someone completely else. I'm really shooting myself in the foot. My husband was like, Watch your mouth when you go on the show. I'm like, I can't. Things just come out.
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Because I'm just like, I'm so sorry. It's coming and I'm not going to stop it. To me, I'm like, you're great. And like, that's what you are. I'm not thrown back and excited and been like, ooh. When I hear someone like an Amy Winehouse or like, I'm trying to think of like all the different people at the Grammys. And I'm like, oh, that was different. That was art.
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I'm really just giving my own.
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Darkness, a creativeness. Like I look at Sia and I'm like, ooh, you are an artist. And you're a singer and you're a star. You're all of those things.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
Is it because there's like a uniqueness to them? Something. It's different. You see it and you're like, that's art. That is different. You're creating a whole other path for you and that you're portraying that. Right.
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Yeah, because then you'll be like, oh, you sound like Sia. Right. You know, like, you have a brand. You have that art.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
And every artist is different.
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I'm an artist, but not an artist in my singing. I know.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
Like, sure, I have a little bit of style when I sing, yes. But I'm not like, ooh, I created my own thing and this is my art and I need to – it's not like that. My art is how I work with people.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
So I would – with a singer, I'd mold them. I'd be like, I'm going to tell you what to do. You're going to do this riff. You're going to change your voice this way. Make this sound like this. I will give artists, I will give singers coaching. And artists, I will give support. So I'm not going to tell Sia anything. where to put her voice, and how to do her riff. That's her thing.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
But I will tell her the things to optimize what she does. So a lot of people come to me, especially with like nodules or vocal difficulties or something going on with their voice. Since I am a voice therapist, I work and I treat the voice. But I'm not going to change them. Meaning I'm not going to say like, don't sing breathy and husky like that. anymore.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
Sing clean and clear, even though that would be better for their voice and be healthier. I'm not going to do that because I'm not going to change you as an artist. And I think that's why a lot of artists like me, because I'm not trying to change them. A lot of other voice therapists, and I'm not saying they're doing anything wrong, everybody has their own style, will be like, that's not healthy.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
So sing it a little bit more clear and a little bit more pingy and a I don't want to. I'm an artist. This is my thing. I sing it like this. So how can I do it like this, but healthier? So that's how I would be different with an artist versus a singer.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
Yeah. I trained in opera when I was a kid. That's how I started is classically singing. And I was like, this is so much fun. And then I went to a performing arts high school and it was so much fun. And obviously I'm a performer. You can see it in me. I don't stop. And I love it. And then I went to UCLA for musical theater. And there was a certain point I had a master class with Diane Keaton.
Habits and Hustle
Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
And she said, if you can do anything else in this world, do it. And I was like, oh, I can do a lot of things. And that's where I, and I come from a very medical family and they're all healers. My dad's a doctor, my mom's a nurse, my brother-in-law's a doctor, my cousin's a doctor, like everybody's doctors in my family. And I love to heal. I love to teach. I love to heal.
Habits and Hustle
Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
I love to take care of people. And I also love music and voice. And then I put it all together. I was like, I can take that and help that and
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
be a voice healer and then it turns into coaching because no one wants to be injured no one likes to be injured right so it's all about the coaching and every singer who's a professional singer is like a little bit injured because you're using your voice so much it's just like every football player has a bum knee or a back hurt yeah when you are an athlete of whatever it is
Habits and Hustle
Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
your body takes a toll. You need someone to have support. So then it started going into that. And the way that I just, I work with voice, I hear voice, I feel voice, and I really intuit what people are doing. And it just built my reputation of that, of doing that. So after that, I went to school for speech pathology, got a master's in speech pathology, started working with really injured singers.