Andrea Dunlop

And one of the hallmarks of a conspiracy theory is that the narrative evolves to encompass any new information so that anything that you throw out as evidence, they can just say, yep, look, the conspiracy is even bigger than what we thought. And that might sound hyperbolic, but I mean, that really is what is happening here.

It's just like anything that shows up that's not on the plaintiff's side, they're like, whoop, that treatment center, they were in on it as well.

It's just like anything that shows up that's not on the plaintiff's side, they're like, whoop, that treatment center, they were in on it as well.

It's just like anything that shows up that's not on the plaintiff's side, they're like, whoop, that treatment center, they were in on it as well.

You know, it's a very third rail thing, I think, this idea, just broadly this idea of false allegations of rape or sexual abuse or assault, right? So I think it is a really challenging thing. And again, it's like, okay, why would Madison do this if it wasn't true? So they're not saying that she lied. They're saying that this was implanted in her. And I just...

You know, it's a very third rail thing, I think, this idea, just broadly this idea of false allegations of rape or sexual abuse or assault, right? So I think it is a really challenging thing. And again, it's like, okay, why would Madison do this if it wasn't true? So they're not saying that she lied. They're saying that this was implanted in her. And I just...

You know, it's a very third rail thing, I think, this idea, just broadly this idea of false allegations of rape or sexual abuse or assault, right? So I think it is a really challenging thing. And again, it's like, okay, why would Madison do this if it wasn't true? So they're not saying that she lied. They're saying that this was implanted in her. And I just...

Just to sort of like step outside the lawsuit. I mean, this poor girl, I just, I can't even fathom sort of what's going on with her psychologically. And I think it's, I wonder if you have any theories because I think this is like this idea of like, okay, her being, you know, obviously she did not want to return to her parents at that point where the suicide attempt happened. Right.

Just to sort of like step outside the lawsuit. I mean, this poor girl, I just, I can't even fathom sort of what's going on with her psychologically. And I think it's, I wonder if you have any theories because I think this is like this idea of like, okay, her being, you know, obviously she did not want to return to her parents at that point where the suicide attempt happened. Right.

Just to sort of like step outside the lawsuit. I mean, this poor girl, I just, I can't even fathom sort of what's going on with her psychologically. And I think it's, I wonder if you have any theories because I think this is like this idea of like, okay, her being, you know, obviously she did not want to return to her parents at that point where the suicide attempt happened. Right.

We don't know much about what happened between then and now. There's several years have passed. Eventually, she files a lawsuit of her own, and now they've combined the two lawsuits. But we don't know anything about what her relationship is with her parents. How can we sort of look at her behavior and sort of what might be going on with her?

We don't know much about what happened between then and now. There's several years have passed. Eventually, she files a lawsuit of her own, and now they've combined the two lawsuits. But we don't know anything about what her relationship is with her parents. How can we sort of look at her behavior and sort of what might be going on with her?

We don't know much about what happened between then and now. There's several years have passed. Eventually, she files a lawsuit of her own, and now they've combined the two lawsuits. But we don't know anything about what her relationship is with her parents. How can we sort of look at her behavior and sort of what might be going on with her?

Because you said something to me the first time I ever met you. when we were in San Diego five years ago that has always stuck with me, where you said children want their parents to be good.

Because you said something to me the first time I ever met you. when we were in San Diego five years ago that has always stuck with me, where you said children want their parents to be good.

Because you said something to me the first time I ever met you. when we were in San Diego five years ago that has always stuck with me, where you said children want their parents to be good.

And I've seen so much evidence of this, and it's like one of the most heartbreaking things in child abuse scenarios, regardless of the form of child abuse, is that you do see children defending their parents, even when they are abusive. You see children defending their parents. You see children wanting to be with their parents still, even if their parents are not providing a safe home.

And I've seen so much evidence of this, and it's like one of the most heartbreaking things in child abuse scenarios, regardless of the form of child abuse, is that you do see children defending their parents, even when they are abusive. You see children defending their parents. You see children wanting to be with their parents still, even if their parents are not providing a safe home.

And I've seen so much evidence of this, and it's like one of the most heartbreaking things in child abuse scenarios, regardless of the form of child abuse, is that you do see children defending their parents, even when they are abusive. You see children defending their parents. You see children wanting to be with their parents still, even if their parents are not providing a safe home.

So can you help us understand just a little bit how complex, these dynamics are, you know, for a child who may very well have been... I mean, I have to say, I think the evidence at this point points to that she probably is a victim of abuse. I think this idea that this hospital and HHSA and all these other people conspired to cook this up is completely...