Andrea Dunlop

And that is something I think people should be outraged about.

So what do we know about how the kiddo is doing now?

Yeah, well, we certainly are keeping that child in our hearts and really hope for the best for her.

And, you know, I think that's this is another case that speaks to just how complex these decisions are in terms of there isn't always, you know, one really hopes best case scenario in one of these situations that there is a loving family member that can support them.

that child in their recovery and that unfortunately is not always the case.

So certainly I think a call for interventions within people's lives that happen way in advance of when they have children, when those children are at risk, you know, when this dysfunction gets to the point where there just aren't safe family members for that child.

Yeah.

No, that's really, that's really sad.

Well, we hope for the best for that kiddo.

And certainly, at least justice has been served against this offender who should not have been allowed to do this for decades, but...

Well, later is better than never.

At least that person is, you know, not going to be in a position to harm any more children.

All right.

Well, Mike, thank you so much for for being with us again today.

And anything else you want to say or want to plug about what you're doing now as we as we sign off here?

So you're not getting too bored in your retirement over there.

Well, we really appreciate you and keep fighting the good fight, Mike.

Thanks, Andrea.

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