Andrea Gunning

And when she was sharing about what she went through with her ex-husband, Spencer, I knew that gut feeling of what don't I know?

And I know that watershed moment when everything is revealed.

And so there was this piece of like this emotional access that I could relate to her that I said, there's something here to this.

I want to explore this more.

And that's what got me on the journey of Betrayal.

You know, Debra, I've worked with these storytellers for over four years, and even though they've gone through some of the worst that you could imagine, they are able to get up every day and put one foot in front of the other and have a close-hit family or a community.

And so to see that resilience firsthand,

is what really kind of fortifies my own purpose.

We do explore the darkest in humanity, but in reality, it's also about the resilience of how they overcome.

These people just are able to get up every day and move forward.

I am surprised by just the magnitude of betrayal and deception.

That's what usually surprises me.

But we have created such an incredible community at Betrayal.

So for individuals to feel safe and come forward and to write in, I know that we are

creating a safe space for them.

There's just the magnitude of it all is really what is surprising to me.

It's such a great question.

And.

You know, these are stories about betrayal, lies and deceptions, but these are really love stories at the end of the day, whether it be between a husband and a wife, best friends, parent and child.

And so to really understand the stakes of the betrayal, you have to understand the love story to really get a sense of what is lost.