Andrea Jones-Rooy

The one and only.

That totally makes sense now.

And it's also quite participatory, right, Jay?

I mean, at Nauticon, the audience was doing all kinds of things that were involved.

Crazy stuff.

Just crazy.

Yeah.

Which is still active.

It was a very convincing cult.

Jay, I'm still upset that I haven't been inaugurated as a member.

So we'll talk after this.

Right, right.

But Bob, I'm with Bob in the sense that, yeah, we're not gonna have that much fun because it is, you know, the world is heavy and things are stressful and skepticism and science and all kinds of stuff are, you know, it's easy to feel hopeless.

And so I really think that not only is important to come together as a skeptical community, but also just to remind ourselves that we're not alone in fighting the good fight on a lot of these fronts.

So yeah, so fun, but fun with purpose.

How about that, Bob?

Thank you, Andrew.

Right.

Like, is this Elizabeth Holmes or is this some kind of genuine misunderstanding?

Is the incentive here on their part, like, is it money?