Andrew Jarecki

Yeah.

But I mean, in terms of like modern civilized society, you know, we don't do this well.

No, we don't rehabilitate well.

That's for damn sure.

And we don't, as you're saying, we don't invest in kids.

We don't, you know, like, how are we in a situation where we are...

paying teachers so little money that they have to use their own money to buy books and school supplies.

We're beating the shit out of our teachers who are the people that are going to turn our kids into part of our community.

How can we be surprised we don't have a community?

Yeah.

Right.

How did Alabama's prisons go from $300 million for one to $1.3 billion?

And they described it as inflation.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I mean, there's... And there... I think that...

When you say it's a conspiracy, I really believe that conspiracies do not have to include people in dark back rooms, right?

It's very often, it's just everybody's sitting around the table, everybody knows what the motivation is, and they just go, okay, I'll do the thing, you do the thing.

There's not – nobody has to be rubbing their hands together and having secret meetings.