Andrew Oleson

So we really value the people that we bring on, and our turnover is almost nothing.

Wow.

So if I can hire locally, I do.

I do have a couple of team members that are out of state, but they're all American.

Awesome.

I never, ever, ever turn down an interview.

Because in the first interview we called the drive-by, 30 minutes long, we don't even talk about the job.

Yeah, you never do.

And I take them out of the office and we'll go get a beer.

Yeah.

You'd be surprised.

It's a whole different ballgame.

And you'd be surprised at the things people tell me.

Oh, for sure.

They don't look at me as a boss when we're sitting at a booth or a bar, you know?

So you asked me another question.

When are we going to burn down the Canva offices?

Yeah.

Well, I guess I should ask you when you're free to hold a torch.

but in all reality how do you join them at this point because it's like really we do utilize some tools like that but for the most part because of the projects then the types of projects that we work on we still do a lot of the hardcore creative stuff you have to yeah which is what you're charging you're right your clients you're charging for you're charging your clients for the experience for the fact that you've lived 33 how old were you i'm 38 now