Andy McGrillan (Host)

So I'll dig more into the Chris Sharp articles and whatnot there too.

I've actually never had Chris on the podcast before.

So as much as we've spoken a couple of times back in the day, maybe time to speak to Chris.

But listen, Richard, let's close out with USO's Volume 2.

So, God, has it been a year since Volume 1?

Less than a year now, isn't it?

God.

that and and aside from some of the just astonishing cases that blew my mind uh those are really the key things that i i think uh i would have to say out of this new book of mine in a minute i'm going to ask you just to give us a taste of one case but just before that something that struck me and i think we spoke about this in the original interview for the the previous book was the changing technologies and the the 60s through the 70s into the 80s

probably saw as big a jump in in maritime technology as maybe any other decades as somebody who's a complete layman i'm just looking at the cold war era submarines from the united states soviet russia and others just grow generally generationally almost overnight with nuclear powered submarines with the missiles on board becoming more advanced gps comes into play stealth technologies come into play so all these different warships and again not the civilian side but the military side

the water suddenly becomes a much more active place, a noisier place with all these signals and frequencies jumping about.

Do you think that played a big part in the behavioral change of the phenomenon at the time?

I do.

And is there any particular case through the research, through the time doing it, that either had a bit of a holy shit moment for you or totally blew your mind or you just did not expect to see in what you were working on?

I think somehow this disturbed him.

With Calares, even when the beams, because Operation Plateau, which is Operation Plate or Saucer, which was the translation.

I wrote about it in my book.

I'll give a quick plug, Richard Atlas, which you obviously came to blurb for me.

Thanks.

it's uh and even like the the beams that were going through the homes people reported seeing the iron and their blood coming out in the beams and there were widespread reports of anemia afterwards with the the blood being the iron being removed from people's blood which was really really odd but i like those little details and those those types of stories too it's a fascinating series of events and and it's it's a bit of um

Yeah, James does a lot of work in Brazil and Virginia.