Andy McGrillin

I think if you do, like, kind of Family Fortunes style, ask 100 people on the high street, tell me a name in ufology, they might go, what?

okay tell me tell me a name in ufos you're you'd be lucky if you get two or three would say a grush elizondo melon outside of that that for me is truly mainstream is the subject more popular and less stigmatized 100 is it mainstream no not yet it's even better it's like underground

their favorite band has been signed to a record label but they've not released their first album yet and you know them before that that's where we're at but it will go mainstream though it will go mainstream I'm going to use this opportunity to plug a friend of the show who made this for me and this is the UFO pendant that I wear so if I'm ever out and people are like oh you're into UFOs this is like being in a secret society you can show this

Mitch at Earthen Objects Jewelry makes these and he has some awesome, awesome designs.

So please go there and check them out.

And this one, just show people you're serious when you meet them on the street.

I wonder if you get this, Andy.

If you go to like a party anywhere and you get the one guy who has nobody else to talk to and I never have anyone to talk to because I always go to parties of my wife's friends.

You always get the guy come up to you and he's like,

Oh, I heard you're like into UFOs.

Cool.

What's going on then?

And it's like, oh.

Okay, yeah, cool.

Let's exchange numbers.

But sometimes you meet cool people that way.

Like, I've made real friends that way.

And it's kind of awesome.

I'm like, thank God you're here.

Okay, let's talk about something that I'm actually interested in.